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    #11
    I worked for a couple of months - but came home at weekends so there was no "footprint" to the local tax system. I was contracted through my limited to a UK agency so I didn't worry about it.

    I may well become exiled from Holland should the end-client try to claim back the VAT (or something).

    YMMV
    ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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      #12
      I worked through Itecs.ie having had a bad time with another payroll company and a nightmare setting up a company through an accountant.

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        #13
        Originally posted by jenever View Post
        I worked through Itecs.ie having had a bad time with another payroll company and a nightmare setting up a company through an accountant.

        Mr Windy Anna also worked through ITECs for a while (changed due to client changing their PSL rather than there being a problem) they seem to know what they are talking about.

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          #14
          Originally posted by WindyAnna View Post
          I'd get some professional advice on taking a contract in the Netherlands. but here is my personal info with the caveat that it may not be 100% correct ...

          It isn't usually possible for you to work UK based ltd co with employers out there, there are all sorts of pieces of legislation to prevent you from doing it so usually contractors go via a Dutch 'umbrella'. You will have to pay the taxes you mention plus possibly some others generally it's higher than here and they tend to err on the side of taxing you too much and then work back from there. There is a 30% ex-pat tax allowance you can get but you have to apply, be supported by your client and it takes a while to come through. You also usually have to have a Dutch address and a Dutch bank account. Do not trust an agent (preaching to the converted I know) who tells you it is easy or straightforward!

          Mr Windy Anna has been working over there for almost 2 years, his tax has been wrong for the majority of that time (in favour of SOFI not him) and he is hoping for a 10K euro rebate through any time now for tax year ending a year ago!! Another friend who was there for a couple of years finally got his tax rebate 4 years later!!

          Be wary but it'll be fun once you get there!

          Windy
          With regard to the various Dutch regulations, I think it should be pointed out that, like Belgium, some of them have been deemed to be against EU law. Especially since quite a few appear to have been put in place from a protectionist (or at least bureacratic) stance.

          Certainly the much put about idea that you can't use a UK Ltd, must be on a payroll and such like, and all you can hope for is some 'expat' rebate (geez this is the EU FFS) was overturned in a 2003 ECJ decision.

          Unfortunately such things don't seem to get reported enough...

          Depending on how long you're planning to work there, besides ITECs style options, one you might consider is simply registering your current Ltd there, or buying an off the shelf Ltd already registered in the Netherlands (complete with VAT number), then claim all the things the 'locals' can.

          It might just be better than being an expat...
          Last edited by Joe Black; 19 November 2007, 21:25.

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            #15
            <bright light warning beacon>

            do not, under any circumstances, under any circumstances, under any circumstances, use itecs.


            <bright light warning beacon>

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              #16
              Just as a matter of interest - why?

              Not that Mr WA will use them again as he is now through one of his client's partners rather than an umbrella but am just interested ... for future reference?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Joe Black View Post
                With regard to the various Dutch regulations, I think it should be pointed out that, like Belgium, some of them have been deemed to be against EU law. Especially since quite a few appear to have been put in place from a protectionist (or at least bureacratic) stance.

                Certainly the much put about idea that you can't use a UK Ltd, must be on a payroll and such like, and all you can hope for is some 'expat' rebate (geez this is the EU FFS) was overturned in a 2003 ECJ decision.

                Unfortunately such things don't seem to get reported enough...

                Depending on how long you're planning to work there, besides ITECs style options, one you might consider is simply registering your current Ltd there, or buying an off the shelf Ltd already registered in the Netherlands (complete with VAT number), then claim all the things the 'locals' can.

                It might just be better than being an expat...
                Hi Joe Black, can you shed any light on the 2003 ECJ decision as none of the accoutants I have spoken to seems to know anything about it!

                Thanks in advance

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