How they messed up F1

[VectraMan]

"Team orders" are not allowed.

I think you've got the quotes in the wrong place. You meant: Team orders are "not allowed".

McLaren were perfectly fair on their drivers IMO. If anything you have to say that Alonso lost it by crashing in Japan, and Hamilton lost it by crashing in the pit lane entrance in China. Two unforced driver errors that were nothing to do with the team.

As for the point system, what are you going to do? Only reward points to the winner? I think there's an argument for allocating points all the way down to last place as the current system tends to be a bit unfair on the people that regularly finish 9th (thereby beating 12 other cars) and get nothing.

[TheFaQQer]

I think you've got the quotes in the wrong place. You meant: Team orders are "not allowed".

McLaren were perfectly fair on their drivers IMO. If anything you have to say that Alonso lost it by crashing in Japan, and Hamilton lost it by crashing in the pit lane entrance in China. Two unforced driver errors that were nothing to do with the team.

As for the point system, what are you going to do? Only reward points to the winner? I think there's an argument for allocating points all the way down to last place as the current system tends to be a bit unfair on the people that regularly finish 9th (thereby beating 12 other cars) and get nothing.

Bigger points gap between first and second places. Return to the old system where you took the best 14 of your results.

[VectraMan]

Bigger points gap between first and second places. Return to the old system where you took the best 14 of your results.

Making F1 more complicated is the last thing it needs.

One benefit to the more even spread of points is it makes it more likely the championship goes down to the last race, which everybody wants to see. The days of Schumacher winning by the 10th race make for a pretty dull year. This year literally couldn't have been closer.

[Bagpuss]

8 points for second is far too much. I want to see the best win not the driver with the most reliable car.

Re Jenson Button, very talented guy but likes the good life a little too much, he's not focused, but Honda will be back, fortunes chance very quickly in F1

[gingerjedi]

Re Jenson Button, very talented guy but likes the good life a little too much, he's not focused, but Honda will be back, fortunes chance very quickly in F1

I don't blame him but he's hardly in James Hunt's league.

The last few seasons have been a bit of an embarrassment for Honda especially as they pride themselves so much on engineering innovation, like you said they'll come good sooner or later.

[Bagpuss]

I saw on the BBC website Raikonnen entered a snomobile race a couple of days before the Brazilian grand prix under the name of james hunt

[gingerjedi]

No, it was before the start of the season... but don't let that get in the way of a good story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7055633.stm

Ferrari are famous for having a team huddle at Madonna di Campiglio ski resort before the season starts so I guess its no big deal to them.

[lilelvis2000]

8 points for second is far too much. I want to see the best win not the driver with the most reliable car.

Re Jenson Button, very talented guy but likes the good life a little too much, he's not focused, but Honda will be back, fortunes chance very quickly in F1

Agreed, the gap from first to secon should be more. I can't recall exactly the points but is 10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1 ? right? second should get only 7 I figure.

Jenson just like to party I think now. He's essentially thrown away his best years now. He's got little chance of a better ride now.

Maybe Honda is too busy focusing on getting into NASCAR?

[Bagpuss]

Jenson has been a little unlucky, he's hit the big teams when they haven't had the best car, In a MacClaren or Ferrari he would have been challenging for the title. Mansel had a go at him recently for wasting his talent, he wouldn't even bother if he were no good.