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    #11
    Originally posted by miffy View Post
    I like it!

    Miffy makes a note in his scrap book...
    I thought Miffy was a girl bunny rabbit?
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      #12
      Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
      I thought Miffy was a girl bunny rabbit?
      She was... I ate her!

      Her dress fits a treat as well
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        #13
        Originally posted by miffy View Post
        She was... I ate her!

        Her dress fits a treat as well
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          #14
          Originally posted by miffy View Post
          She was... I ate her!

          Her dress fits a treat as well
          Is it me or is it getting stranger and stranger around here?
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            #15
            Originally posted by Zippy View Post
            Is it me or is it getting stranger and stranger around here?
            No - it's always been pretty strange.
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              #16
              I'm





              Ooh, erm......
              crap I've forgotton

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                #17
                wooohooo paid.

                .. after 33 days

                still, bette rhtan not, and the £70 late payment compensation is def goign on next invoice as advised.
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                  #18
                  I'm not sure you're getting good advice here. And I'm betting you've never been in business for yourself either. Because if you did you'd know that getting paid within 30 days, whatever terms you agreed, is a rare occurance in any other field. I've run a limited company and waited months and months to get paid by big name firms. Not that this excuses the agency in this case but maybe puts it in perspective. Agencies themselves don't get paid for many months despite paying you - that is one major reason we go through them isn't it?

                  You got paid 3 days late and you are getting angry, slagging them off publically, talking about penalty fees and interest etc. I don't think doing this is in your best interests. Some people on here have petty gripes and want everyone else to be as bitter as they are. Don't get sucked in man.

                  I've contracted for many years and mostly had very good relationships with my agents, including some of the big firms with reputations for supposedly being sharp. I've found you need to foster these good relations and it pays off (maybe buy THEM a pint once in a while! gasp! yes it can be a two way street... they will love you for it) . Agents like to deal with people they like and are much more likely to go the extra mile for you and stick their neck out with clients for you and be more flexible on other terms after a while.

                  You start shouting the odds at the first problem and sending penalties to them and they are just going to mark your file as "difficult" and that won't help you.

                  Definately let them know what they did was unacceptable and make them promise it won't happen again. If it keeps happening and then if you decide you are never going to deal with them again, THEN start with the interest charges etc. Give them a chance to rectify, stay calm and be polite and reasonable.

                  You do realise that recruiters sit about having conversations about how some contractors are "scum" and untrustworthy and money grabbing etc? Talk to your agents over a drink and you will hear all sorts of horror stories. Being all "Us" and "Them" (something this forum seems to revel in for some reason) helps no-one, least of all you. If you don't like agencies then don't deal with them. But if you need to, like most of us do, then be smart and develop business relationships like you would with any other client. Remember they are business CLIENTS of yours and treat them as such. Remember IR35? We are not employees. We are consultants working for a limited company subcontracted by the agency (our client) to the end-client. We provide a service on business terms. Don't act like a petulent permie.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Lee Warwick View Post
                    I'm not sure you're getting good advice here. And I'm betting you've never been in business for yourself either. Because if you did you'd know that getting paid within 30 days, whatever terms you agreed, is a rare occurance in any other field. I've run a limited company and waited months and months to get paid by big name firms. Not that this excuses the agency in this case but maybe puts it in perspective. Agencies themselves don't get paid for many months despite paying you - that is one major reason we go through them isn't it?

                    You got paid 3 days late and you are getting angry, slagging them off publically, talking about penalty fees and interest etc. I don't think doing this is in your best interests. Some people on here have petty gripes and want everyone else to be as bitter as they are. Don't get sucked in man.

                    I've contracted for many years and mostly had very good relationships with my agents, including some of the big firms with reputations for supposedly being sharp. I've found you need to foster these good relations and it pays off (maybe buy THEM a pint once in a while! gasp! yes it can be a two way street... they will love you for it) . Agents like to deal with people they like and are much more likely to go the extra mile for you and stick their neck out with clients for you and be more flexible on other terms after a while.

                    You start shouting the odds at the first problem and sending penalties to them and they are just going to mark your file as "difficult" and that won't help you.

                    Definately let them know what they did was unacceptable and make them promise it won't happen again. If it keeps happening and then if you decide you are never going to deal with them again, THEN start with the interest charges etc. Give them a chance to rectify, stay calm and be polite and reasonable.

                    You do realise that recruiters sit about having conversations about how some contractors are "scum" and untrustworthy and money grabbing etc? Talk to your agents over a drink and you will hear all sorts of horror stories. Being all "Us" and "Them" (something this forum seems to revel in for some reason) helps no-one, least of all you. If you don't like agencies then don't deal with them. But if you need to, like most of us do, then be smart and develop business relationships like you would with any other client. Remember they are business CLIENTS of yours and treat them as such. Remember IR35? We are not employees. We are consultants working for a limited company subcontracted by the agency (our client) to the end-client. We provide a service on business terms. Don't act like a petulent permie.
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                      #20
                      I love agents, where else would I get my contract leads?
                      The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                      But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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