C4 Dispatches - immigrants really good for Britain

[Churchill]

Places like Manchester became rich in the industrial revolution on the backs of Indian cities, the British raised taxes on cotton produced in India which resulted in the whole textile industry collapsing.

Wrong, Manchester became rich on the processing of the raw product from the US.

It was processed by the downtrodden working class of... Manchester.

Why do you think the Communist Manifesto was written in Manchester?

[kingshuk]

i will re-emphasise the point , that if it weren't for the timely introduction of the english language they would now be struggling

Yes I can see your point now. For example all the American Indians now speak english. 'if it weren't for the timely introduction of the english language they would now be struggling'. Not to forget the Australian aborigines. Thanks for the clarification.

Strangely the converse is not true though - some folks do not speak much English but appeared to have done okay. Japan, China, South Korea - must be a fluke I guess.

[DodgyAgent]

Strangely the converse is not true though .

No one said it was

[3ill]

Wrong, Manchester became rich on the processing of the raw product from the US.

It was processed by the downtrodden working class of... Manchester.

Why do you think the Communist Manifesto was written in Manchester?

"India's cotton-processing sector gradually declined during British expansion in India and the establishment of colonial rule during the late 18th and early 19th centuries. This was largely due to the East India Company's de-industrialization of India, which forced the closing of cotton processing and manufacturing workshops in India, to ensure that Indian markets supplied only raw materials and were obliged to purchase manufactured textiles from Britain."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton#History_and_uses

I'm not denying the fact that Manchester got rich from raw cotton imported from US, but to say they didn't benefit from Indian cotton (at the expense of Indian cotton mills) is incorrect.

[mrdonuts]

Yes I can see your point now. For example all the American Indians now speak english. 'if it weren't for the timely introduction of the english language they would now be struggling'. Not to forget the Australian aborigines. Thanks for the clarification.

Strangely the converse is not true though - some folks do not speak much English but appeared to have done okay. Japan, China, South Korea - must be a fluke I guess.

india is booming as service centre to english speaking countries, far eastern countries are booming as manufacturing powerhouses

you clearly don't have a clue

[Churchill]

"India's cotton-processing sector gradually declined during British expansion in India and the establishment of colonial rule during the late 18th and early 19th centuries. This was largely due to the East India Company's de-industrialization of India, which forced the closing of cotton processing and manufacturing workshops in India, to ensure that Indian markets supplied only raw materials and were obliged to purchase manufactured textiles from Britain."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton#History_and_uses

I'm not denying the fact that Manchester got rich from raw cotton imported from US, but to say they didn't benefit from Indian cotton (at the expense of Indian cotton mills) is incorrect.

What Indian Cotton Mills and when?

[3ill]

What Indian Cotton Mills and when?

The ones my ancestors worked in.

[DodgyAgent]

The ones my ancestors worked in.

In which case you have us to thank. If we hadnt closed your cotton mills you would not have moved into IT.

[Pickle2]

Why do you think the Communist Manifesto was written in Manchester?

Because the printers there worked cheap?

[Andy2]

Wrong, Manchester became rich on the processing of the raw product from the US.

It was processed by the downtrodden working class of... Manchester.

Why do you think the Communist Manifesto was written in Manchester?

because its con-chester, innit