Lentil munching loons are going to ban lightbulbs in the UK

[KathyWoolfe]

Mr Benn said he also wanted to see an end to products such as energy-wasting TVs.

With the replacement of the analogue TV signal with the digital TV signal, aren't all these Hi-Def digital TV's more energy-wasting than the old ones?

It seems to me that it is advances in technology only leads to more energy-wasting than before.

[Andy2]

I read somewhere that plasma tv needs 4-5 times more power than CRT one

[Sysman]

Not to mention the power wasted in always on digital receivers... another bright move that...

Nah, the RIAA aren't worried about that. Think of all that lovely DRM software that everyone's actually paying for

[gingerjedi]

Not to mention the power wasted in always on digital receivers... another bright move that...

Sky had an update that puts the box into standby overnight and my new LCD TV only uses about 20% more power than my old CRT and uses <1watt in standby (so feck off Cameron).

It all pales into insignificance when I consider the 10kw shower that's in use for anything up to 40 minutes a day.

Where my dad lives in Spain he can't buy standard light bulbs anymore and the energy saver ones that he can buy have a disposal tax built into the price, coming to B&Q soon... mark my words.

[snaw]

Anyone got some facts to back these anti energy saving lightbulb claims, rather than I read somewhere quotes?

here's a link from this is money - presumably not a lentil munching publication:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/consume...3&in_page_id=5

The Government is planning a light bulb tax on families to lower household emmissions. Here are some fascinating facts about an extraordinary everyday item:


• In most homes, lighting accounts for 10 – 15 per cent of the electricity bill

• A 100W light bulb left on for just 30 minutes creates enough CO2 to fill a party balloon.

• UKhouseholds use £1.9 billion worth of electricity every year on lighting

• Electricity consumption by domestic lights and appliances has nearly doubled since 1970 and it is set to increase by 12 per cent to 2010.

• Energy saving light bulbs use different technology that enable them to produce a highly efficient and compact light using a fraction of the energy

• By buying an energy efficient lightbulb rather than the other alternatives, you can cut energy wastage by over three quarters. That's a saving of up to £9 a year for a typical 100W bulb, or £100 over the bulb's lifetime

• Energy efficient bulbs last up to 12 times longer than their inefficient counterparts.

• If every UKhousehold installed 3 Compact Fluorescent Lightbulbs enough energy would be saved in a year to supply all street lighting in the UK.

• If everyone installed one energy saving light bulb the carbon dioxide emissions saved would fill the Royal Albert Hall nearly 2000 times

• An area three times the size of the Isle of Wight would need to be planted with Sitkaspruce to absorb the carbon resulting from the annual UKuse of domestic electric lights and appliances.

• The British public walks to the moon and back twice every year to change lightbulbs. CFLs last on average 12 times as long as standard bulbs: save your shoe leather.

• Energy saving light bulbs use different technology that enable them to produce a highly efficient and compact light using a fraction of the energy

• By buying an energy efficient lightbulb rather than the other alternatives, you can cut energy wastage by over three quarters. That's a saving of up to £9 a year for a typical 100W bulb, or £100 over the bulb's lifetime

• Energy efficient bulbs last up to 12 times longer than their inefficient counterparts.

• In 2001 there were 10m unit sales, representing 6.5% market share. This increased to 21m unit sales in 2005, representing 13% of market share. This is an increase of 110%.

I'm prepared to listen to objective counter arguements on why they're bad, but please do so with some sort of proof.

[sasguru]

I'm prepared to listen to objective counter arguements on why they're bad, but please do so with some sort of proof.

This is CUK. You don't need proof just some cliched, hackneyed phrases of choice:

"tree-hugging"
"Lentil-eating"


and some entrenched prejudices.

HTH

[snaw]

ESLB only last longer if you leave them on. Ordinary lightbulbs are far more efficient in situations where there regularly being switch on and off. More efficient than leaving an ESLB on all the time.

False. From this link (Eneergy efficiency partnership:

http://www.eeph.org.uk/energy/index....ew&news_id=843

CFLi's need to be left switched on for >45 minutes as they consume so much energy when first switched on:

* There is no reason to keep a CFLi switched on for longer than a normal GLS bulb as they do not consume any greater energy during start up and run very efficiently immediately after the first 2 or 3 seconds.

[snaw]

I'm sure you know what you're talking about lizard dude, I'm just googling and don't have much knowledge of this stuff (shocking news, I know) but links would be good to back up what you're saying.

[NotAllThere]

False. From this link (Eneergy efficiency partnership:

http://www.eeph.org.uk/energy/index....ew&news_id=843

Hey - I was making it up as I went along. No need to get shirty.

[_V_]

CFL's give you cancer and make your children be born blind.

That's what my gran told me once anyway.