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Mandela statue joins ranks of Britain's heroes

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    #11
    this statue must surely be linked to your planet x thingy that you keep pasting in here everytime it rains.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Nicky G View Post
      What exactly has replaced it? The murder capital of the world, white flight, corruption, highest rates of HIV in the world and continuing abject poverty. From one awful system to another.
      London?
      McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
      Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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        #13
        Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
        I'm sure supporters of the IRA, the PLO and Al Quaeda would say exactly the same.
        Bit different when the government ruling you is worse than the label you're applying to the ones who reacted.
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          #14
          Well

          I am a a Saffer and I think that regardless of the history of the ANC, Mandela is one of the worlds greatest statesman, and certainly the greatest to come out of Africa. He was not really a nuts and bolts kind a guy and was more of an icon and he is certainly one of the only reasons that the whiteys didnt get skinned alive after the transition.

          Its funny though, Apartheid was an evil system and as has been echoed here in a few posts it seems to stand out as one of the biggest injustices in Africa. In terms of wholesale brutality, in the african context, Aparheid was relatively civilised in comaprision to the wholesale slaughters that have taken place in other African countries. Its only really becuase of the race issue that it stands out. It makes me laugh that while people where rallying against Apartheid in trafalger square Idi Amin, Menghistu to name a few, where indulging in wholesale slaughter. But it was black on black so somehow it didnt really seem to be as important.

          Nevertheless, Mandela is a good leader and like Ghandi and Tony Blair(Ha ha, got you there) is one of the leaders in the world that restores a persons sense of faith in the political process.

          If only to look at the statue and be reminded that somewhere there are leaders that are not covered in putrid slime is good enough reason for me to see his statue rected here
          There are no evil thoughts except one: the refusal to think

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            #15
            Russian communists are still the enemy

            Originally posted by fzbucks View Post
            this statue must surely be linked to your planet x thingy that you keep pasting in here everytime it rains.


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            It is thought that it brings upheavals of an incisive nature. But this Star portends more.

            It can be called the Star of Bethlehem, because it is of exactly the same nature as that was. Its power sucks the waters up high, brings weather catastrophes and still more. When encircled by its rays the earth quakes.

            Since the event in Bethlehem there has been nothing like it. Like the Star of Bethlehem, this Star has also detached itself from the Eternal Realm of Primordial Spirit at such a time as to take effect on this earth exactly when the years of spiritual enlightenment are to come to all mankind.

            The Star takes its course in a straight line from the Eternal Realm to this part of the Universe. Its core is filled with high spiritual power; it envelops itself in material substance, and will thereby also become visible to men on earth. Unerringly and unswervingly the Comet pursues its course, and will appear on the scene at the right hour, as already ordained thousands of years ago.

            The first direct effects have already begun in recent years. For anyone who wishes neither to see nor to hear this, and who does not perceive how ridiculous it is still to maintain that all the extraordinary things which have already happened are of everyday occurrence, there is naturally no help. He either wishes to act like an ostrich out of fear, or he is burdened with an extremely limited understanding. Both types must be allowed to go serenely on their way; one can only smile at their easily refutable assertions.

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            Abd-Ru-Shin - In The Light Of Truth Book 1

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              #16
              Originally posted by Nicky G View Post
              Abd-Ru-Shin - In The Light Of Truth Book 1
              I thought it was.

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                #17
                I did listen to Nelson's speech from Parliament Square on the TV and found it very moving; he is still an awesome figure. He's hoping to come back next year to celebrate his 90th birthday in Hyde Park!

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                  #18
                  That gives NG a year to practise his heckling.
                  McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
                  Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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                    #19
                    Some very interesting quotes......


                    "Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro... Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny... There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people."
                    Mandela in Cuba, 1991

                    ….Committment to the fight for peace and human rights in the world.
                    Mandella on Colonel Qaddafi, May 1990

                    The Soviet Union is the torch-bearer for all our hopes and aspirations. We have learned and are continuing to learn resilience and bravery from the Soviet people, who are an example to us in our struggle for freedom, a model of loyalty to internationalist duty. In Soviet Russia, genuine power of the people has been transformed from dreams into reality. The land of the Soviets is the genuine friend and ally of all peoples fighting against the dark forces of world reaction.
                    Winnie Mandela, 1986

                    With our boxes of matches and our necklaces we shall liberate this country.
                    Winnie Mandela, 4/1986

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                      #20
                      Is that the worst you could find?
                      All that is necessary for evil members to succeed is that good members post nothing

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