Russia's Undeniable War Preparations

[wendigo100]

Ants?

Cockroaches?

Depends which cunning plan we're talking about...

#43,271.87 or #27,673.26.

Well, this one didn't seem to involve Giant Alien Lizards.

I think Gonzo has let slip his own agenda here...

[AlfredJPruffock]

You don't care Gonzo, but people like me care. And one day people like you will open their eyes for 911. Many already have. It will take time. The reason why many people don’t open their eyes is because there is nothing they can do , they think. Imagine for a second your President support mass murdering of its people. What can you do ? Nothing. Even if they admit it. Still nothing. All you can do is computers and your girlfriend.

In fact the concept of 'sacrificing' civilians to further the aims of the states geo-political ambitions is not new - eg if you research Operation Northwood - a plan by the US security forces to shoot down a US civlian airliner over Cuba to justify an all out assault on Cuba was considered in the early 60s.

As for the original post, an aspect which should disturb anyone who has studied the politics of the Cold War - it is alarming that China would conduct any millitary exercises with Russia given the whole focus of US strategy during the 60s and 70s was to stop any prospect of a Soviet Sino alliance - to my knowledge the exercises held by the Warsaw pact 2 nations was the first and only time the Chinese PLA has conducted any millitary exercises with any foreign power.

Russias consequent millitary investment in new superior missile systems etc is predictable as a consequence of Washingtons uniltareral milltary adventures and its encroachment on Russias Eastern borders - the Kremlin cannot tolerate such threats to its borders.

[Churchill]

11th September - I refuse to call it 911 - was a well deserved bloody nose for the United States IMHO.

[wendigo100]

to my knowledge the exercises held by the Warsaw pact 2 nations was the first tiem the Chinese PLA has conducted any millitary exercises with any foreign power.

Is China a signatory to the Warsaw Pact?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Is China a signatory to the Warsaw Pact?

Of course they are not - I used the term Warsaw Pact 2 in order to brighten up an otherwise dull commentary.

[Nicky G]

M.A.D. and all that - it stopped anything serious happening for the entire span of the Cold War - always will.

Yes, but Russia never believed in MAD, because it is complete nonsense. There's no end of the world even with a full scale nuclear exchange. I could pull out quotes from Russian generals stating just as much, that it's a peculiarity of the western mind to believe there are no winners in a nuclear conflict, if I could be bothered to find them.

[sasguru]

Yes, but Russia never believed in MAD, because it is complete nonsense. There's no end of the world even with a full scale nuclear exchange. I could pull out quotes from Russian generals stating just as much, that it's a peculiarity of the western mind to believe there are no winners in a nuclear conflict, if I could be bothered to find them.

In that case why didn't Russia go for it when it had superiority?

[Nicky G]

As for the original post, an aspect which should disturb anyone who has studied the politics of the Cold War - it is alarming that China would conduct any millitary exercises with Russia given the whole focus of US strategy during the 60s and 70s was to stop any prospect of a Soviet Sino alliance - to my knowledge the exercises held by the Warsaw pact 2 nations was the first and only time the Chinese PLA has conducted any millitary exercises with any foreign power.

The sino soviet split was a deception, the purpose of which was to convince the West that the world Communist movement was not united. Classic Leninist deception to further long range strategy.

"More than a year after the reported withdrawal of Soviet economic and technical specialists from China, in July-August 1960, at least some of the KGB advisors were still in place there,"

Anatoliy Golitsyn - New Lies For Old

Russias consequent millitary investment in new superior missile systems etc is predictable as a consequence of Washingtons uniltareral milltary adventures and its encroachment on Russias Eastern borders - the Kremlin cannot tolerate such threats to its borders.

You realize you are just repeating Kremlin agitprop.

[Nicky G]

In that case why didn't Russia go for it when it had superiority?

It never had superiority during the Cold War. The entire communist Bloc couldn't have taken on NATO without suffering unacceptable losses. Now due to American disarmament thanks to the false collapse of communism the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the many third world nations affiliated with them have an advantage.

[Churchill]

It never had superiority during the Cold War. The entire communist Bloc couldn't have taken on NATO without suffering unacceptable losses. Now due to American disarmament thanks to the false collapse of communism the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the many third world nations affiliated with them have an advantage.

Ah well, you've got to die of something...