5 "Britons" held in Guantanamo

[Old Greg]

the evidence is in the same storage file as your evidence to the contrary!

I've never argued at all that there should be no trials - if you read through the posts instead of just your usual trolling of anything remotely to the right if your thinking you will see that I have not defended Gitmo - only raised issue with what you expect our country to do about it - in another thread you would probably describe it as meddling in other country's affairs if that suited your opinion of the day.

No, you haven't 'only raised issue with what our country should do about it', you have suggested that Jamil El-Banna was more likely to have been money raising for organisations of ill-repute than on a legitimate business trip. That's a serious allegation. Where's your evidence?

[fzbucks]

No, you haven't 'only raised issue with what our country should do about it', you have suggested that Jamil El-Banna was more likely to have been money raising for organisations of ill-repute than on a legitimate business trip. That's a serious allegation. Where's your evidence?

As I said the same place as your evidence, I also agreed with another poster that there will be innocents locked up as there are in any kind of jail - I accept that I was being a bit over the top with the statement about more likely to be etc etc - however it is based on as much fact as your assumption that he is innocent - ie none.

[Old Greg]

As I said the same place as your evidence, I also agreed with another poster that there will be innocents locked up as there are in any kind of jail - I accept that I was being a bit over the top with the statement about more likely to be etc etc - however it is based on as much fact as your assumption that he is innocent - ie none.

You have misunderstood me (maybe I have not made myself clear) - I have no idea whether he is innocent or not. As I've said, if he's done something wrong, try him. Or extradite him to Spain. But there is the presumption of innocence unti lproven otherwise - that's how we act as civilised people. So let's say he's an entirely innocent refugee kidnapped in Gambia. Such a man should be aided. But if he's found guilty after a fair trial, throw the book at him.

[fzbucks]

You have misunderstood me (maybe I have not made myself clear) - I have no idea whether he is innocent or not. As I've said, if he's done something wrong, try him. Or extradite him to Spain. But there is the presumption of innocence unti lproven otherwise - that's how we act as civilised people. So let's say he's an entirely innocent refugee kidnapped in Gambia. Such a man should be aided. But if he's found guilty after a fair trial, throw the book at him.

But the problem was up until very recently there was nothing the UK could do for them as the UK is considered a 3rd country to these men - they did what the could for the citizens of the UK but at that time the way the americans have setup up gitmo - "3rd countries" could not intervine or had no right to in the cases of this indiviuals.

[Old Greg]

But the problem was up until very recently there was nothing the UK could do for them as the UK is considered a 3rd country to these men - they did what the could for the citizens of the UK but at that time the way the americans have setup up gitmo - "3rd countries" could not intervine or had no right to in the cases of this indiviuals.

The UK could have chosen to intervene for the refugees, saying that they had a duty of protection, and that the refugees had a presumption of innocence. I am sure the legal wranglings (a bout duties to refugees) are complicated, but a lot of this is political, and with the political will, they could have done this.

[GreenerGrass]

Did this bizarre "business trip whilst claiming refugee status" in Gambia involve getting teenage girls to put drugs up their poonannies?