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    #11
    Originally posted by MrRobin
    I think you're missing the point of my question dotnetter...

    Say you want £500/day, and when the agent asks what you are currently on, and it is £250/day, would you perhaps feel that the agent might think:

    'Blimey, that's a big jump - no chance!'

    Would you instead blag it and say 'I'm on £450' or something?
    Just lie! (or "blag it" as you put it)

    It's none of ther business what your current rate is anyway, but if they insist on knowing, then just pick a figure ff the top of your head.

    They're all such a bunch of kn*bs.
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      #12
      Originally posted by MrRobin
      I think you're missing the point of my question dotnetter...

      Say you want £500/day, and when the agent asks what you are currently on, and it is £250/day, would you perhaps feel that the agent might think:

      'Blimey, that's a big jump - no chance!'

      Would you instead blag it and say 'I'm on £450' or something?
      If you feel better saying £450, say it.
      But I would say £500 is my day rate, and if asked again, "No it's still £500"

      You just haveto be prepared to take the risk, that you don't get the job and have to wait.

      Hence the money in the bank comment earlier.

      You have to ask yourself, how much do you want the higher rate.
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        #13
        They ask your current rate is so they can fill your current position with another contractor once you move out, otherwise your required rate
        is the only rate they should need to know.

        HTH

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          #14
          My take on it.

          Never tell the truth if it doesn't suit you. The whole business of dealing with agents is exactly like Poker - bluff and double bluff and keep a straight face - don't feel like you have to be honest because I'll tell you now, the guy at the other end of the phone certainly isn't.

          ALWAYS look out for number one. Every £20 extra per day is £20 nearer retirement.
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            #15
            So you are on 250/day, but you want 500. It goes like this.


            Agent: what rate are you looking for.

            Johnny contractor : 500 / day

            Agent: What rate are you on now?

            Johhny contractor: 500/day


            Sorted, init.
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              #16
              Originally posted by Pickle2
              So you are on 250/day, but you want 500. It goes like this.


              Agent: what rate are you looking for.

              Johnny contractor : 500 / day

              Agent: What rate are you on now?

              Johhny contractor: 500/day


              Sorted, init.

              Exactly, this is as simple as it needs to be. It's all part of the negotiation process. And as the young lady at the airport says, if you have been contracting for a while and have savings in the bank, you can afford to be more picky about your rate -- you can turn down offers that you're not happy with.

              For example, you might not work for less than 400/day unless you were down to your last month worth of savings. You might not work for less than 500/day if you have 6 month worth of savings.

              And ultimately, you may not need to work at all if you have saved/invested wisely in order to generate a cash flow in excess of your average monthly expediture.

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                #17
                You could always ask them what their current margin is. Sort of a "I'll show you mine" kind of deal.
                I am not qualified to give the above advice!

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                Smith and Wesson.

                Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                  #18
                  If you are asking for the going rate for the job, then the agent will probably accept it. He'll still haggle, but he'll accept it. So, in your .NET example he wouldn't expect you to work for £250 a day.

                  Ask for a plausible figure and stick to your guns.

                  I tend to quote a figure (usually based on a vague spec) but say that the rate is dependant on the actual job I'm expected to do. So if I get to the interview and they want a code monkey, fine. If I get there and they want additional skills(e.g. team management) then the price goes up.
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                    #19
                    Thanks for all your replies.

                    I just had another example of this happening, from an agent who didn't have anything specific for me, just wanted to know what kind of roles I was looking for (read the CV?!). I asked why do you want to know and she said it was to guage what kind of level I was at. When I said my current rate I'm on is between my current agent and myself she got all shirty and hung up!

                    WTF?! Was that just fishing??
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by dotnetter
                      Figure what out?

                      I say a rate thats I want for the role if the agent comes back and says a lower one then I dont go for the role simple.
                      What do you do then? Flash your "six-pack" and demand more?

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