Jailed terrorist attacked.

[Mailman]

We believe in democracy (dont start the argument as to whether we have it or not) and democracy relies on the rule of law and justice for all.

Unfortunately the piece of scum locked up didnt believe in democracy and the rule of law and justice.

No matter what our personal feelings we must aply the law equaly. If there is a failing then we must change the law.

Hence why police want to hold terrorist scum indefinately

We must not stoop to the levels of those who would corrupt or undermine our society.

Why not? Do unto them what they will do unto you. That seems to be the only language these jihadi's understand.

This act, whether justified or not will serve as another rallying point for fanatics.

Your weakness and lack of willingness to do anything about jihadi's acts as a rallying point for this scum.

They see your weakness as an excuse and justification to attack.

Mailman

[The Lone Gunman]

Postmanprat: Are you not one of our pro Iraq war bretheren? Wasn't one of the reasons you argued that we were bringing democracy to the region?

If so then explain what the difference between our democracy (as you supprot) and the regime they already had?

If you feel it is OK to attack those who are willing to attack you then I assume that you are fully in support of the Jihadi who are only retaliating against a West that is in their eyes commiting terrorist attrocities against Islam.

If we are to claim the moral high ground then we have to adhere to a higher standard.

[Old Greg]

Postmanprat: Are you not one of our pro Iraq war bretheren? Wasn't one of the reasons you argued that we were bringing democracy to the region?

If so then explain what the difference between our democracy (as you supprot) and the regime they already had?

If you feel it is OK to attack those who are willing to attack you then I assume that you are fully in support of the Jihadi who are only retaliating against a West that is in their eyes commiting terrorist attrocities against Islam.

If we are to claim the moral high ground then we have to adhere to a higher standard.

I think the truth LG, is that this is not a war for what we might see as liberal democracy, where we aim to spread the principles of the Enlightenment to these people who labour under tyranny. It's about spreading free market philosophy - opening up the Iraqi economy to foreign (principally American) investment. Wiki link for anyone interested. This may or may not be a good thing for the Iraqi economy, but it has little to do with democracy. The neo-con mantra 'people are free when markets are free' stops being true when the people are unable to use their democratic mandate to set the limits of the free market (e.g. by choosing to nationalise oil production should they wish to do so). US and Britain have form on this - they backed the Shah's coup against the democratic Iranian government that was looking to nationalise oil production.

So, yes, they want democracy - but not to the extent that the Iraqis might choose to use their mandate against US economic interests.

[pisces]

I hope he gets millions in compensation and released from prison immediately.

[Stan]

What did he do anyway? The thread is a bit light on real info. Until I find out what he actually did to deserve having boiling oil poured over him its hard to say whether it is worth feeling sympathy or not.

[Diver]

If he survives he will have to spend the rest of his life behind bars in solitary confinement for his own protection.
That has got to be worse than death.