If there was a general election tomorrow...

[Old Greg]

I know these polls are mostly bollox because of multiple ids etc but it's interesting that more people would go to the extreme of BNP (I don't care how how often they say they'll empty your bins they're racist) over the UKIP.

Remember that this is a Contractor's site and in another site, you'd probably get a different breakdown.

[MrRobin]

I voted looney for real once. It was in a safe ... seat.

Was that the seat in Devon that they actually won??

[Troll]

Causus Deli has a few user id's. Probably not averse to a bit of ballot stuffing.

Vote early... vote often

[Old Greg]

Was that the seat in Devon that they actually won??

Wasn't that the guy who wanted ground level buttons at pelican crossings for hedgehogs?

[Pondlife]

Remember that this is a Contractor's site and in another site, you'd probably get a different breakdown.

I understand that your going to get a higher turn out for the Tories on here than on publicsectorworker.com. It was the BNP Vs UKIP I was questioning.

Wanting to make/keep more money doesn't make you racist.

[Old Greg]

Vote early... vote often

A good Irish saying, I believe.

[Troll]

I know these polls are mostly bollox because of multiple ids etc but it's interesting that more people would go to the extreme of BNP (I don't care how how often they say they'll empty your bins they're racist) over the UKIP.

Will the the UKIP empty my bins more frequently?

[Pondlife]

Will the the UKIP empty my bins more frequently?

Not sure. Couldn't read past the first page without rolling my eyes.

http://www.ukip.org/index.php?page=m...=manifesto2005

[Old Greg]

I understand that your going to get a higher turn out for the Tories on here than on publicsectorworker.com. It was the BNP Vs UKIP I was questioning.

Wanting to make/keep more money doesn't make you racist.

One historical analysis of where fascist parties take their grassroots support from would identify these key groups (assume non-Jewish in the '30s and white today):

The unemployed (in a time of high unemployment)
The self-employed (e.g. shopkeepers, independent craftsmen in the 1930s, Contractors today)
Various groups of non-unionised (mostly middle class) employees: clerks, middle managers, policemen

What these groups have in common is:

They are not organised in Trade Unions, so fascist parties offer them organisation, a sense of pride and belonging etc.
They are vulnerable to (and in the '30s were victims of) economic slump: decrease in house prices, hyperinflation wiping out savings (or interest rates increasing mortgage payments), unemployment. They will therefore grab hold of strong leadership (and buy into scapegoating) in a crisis.

Now this isn't the 1930s. We're not in a slump and the social set up of society has changed massively - 2 examples are the decline of trade unionism and social mobility. But I think it's worth bearing in mind when asking why BNP support may be over-represented here in relation to society in general.

And UKIP looks like a dull xenophobic little Englander party when compared to the shiny shouty nastiness of the BNP.

[TheFaQQer]

I guess the winners were fairly predictable... I was surprised at the BNP votes too but then I saw this earlier poll: Linky Also, there's often a surge in votes for the far right in the wake of a terror attack (albeit a botched one)

Having read a lot of the threads on CUK, I'm not at all surprised.