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    Originally posted by sasguru
    I see you've met Chico. Enjoy ....
    Is he not worth listening to?

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      Originally posted by Old Greg
      But a central part of the Christian message is that God has always existed inside human knowledge. God created Adam and Eve (we are told) and they knew him (not in that way), and God revealed himself to Noah, the patriarchs, prophets, inspired the Old Testament. So what's this God existing outside human knowledge?
      God is the initiator of the dialogue. Adam and Eve only knew him because God showed up, we on our owncannot grasp this idea of God who is eternal, who exists outside the space time continuum. Atheists seem to struggle with the concept of where God came from - Christians however do not. God is way more than we can ever comprehend and we either accept that by faith or we do not. Its your God given free will.
      Sola gratia

      Sola fide

      Soli Deo gloria

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        Originally posted by Old Greg
        Is he not worth listening to?
        I wear that as a badge of honour. Some one cared so much ...
        Sola gratia

        Sola fide

        Soli Deo gloria

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          Originally posted by Chico
          God is the initiator of the dialogue. Adam and Eve only knew him because God showed up, we on our owncannot grasp this idea of God who is eternal, who exists outside the space time continuum. Atheists seem to struggle with the concept of where God came from - Christians however do not. God is way more than we can ever comprehend and we either accept that by faith or we do not. Its your God given free will.
          I can't speak for other atheists but I certainly don't struggle with the concept of where God came from because there is no God. Rather, I think religious folks struggle with the concept of where the universe might have come from without a God. Many religious folks, however, offer up God as an explanation of the prime cause of the universe, without going on to understand that that argument requires an explanation for God.

          Faith (going back to Dawkins) is another way of saying you accept something without any evidence except for a (sometimes weak/sometimes strong) feeling that it's true. That's no different from a delusion.

          As for 'outside the space/time continuum' - what is that? Is it inside or outside the laws of logic? Is it merely a made-up concept to defend God from rational debate?

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            Originally posted by Chico
            I wear that as a badge of honour. Some one cared so much ...
            Perhaps it's SASGuru - he's godlike.

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              Originally posted by zeitghost
              <cough>
              Still showing as 'just' Godlike at 10k+, eh ZG?
              Rule #76: No excuses. Play like a champion.

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                Originally posted by Xenophon
                Still showing as 'just' Godlike at 10k+, eh ZG?
                how about supergod

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                  Originally posted by andy
                  how about supergod
                  superdupergod
                  Rule #76: No excuses. Play like a champion.

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                    Originally posted by zeitghost
                    One is mortified....
                    Apparently it gets set to zero at 11000
                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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