Ban Alcohol

[DodgyAgent]

Ok, when I said widely accepted, I mean widely accepted because of extensive scientific reasearch...

Smoking causes lung cancer - fact. Passive smoking increases your chances of lung cancer by almost 100%.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlConte...08/wtob08.html

[Let-Me-In]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlConte...08/wtob08.html

"A study in the British Medical Journal this month said second-hand smoke claims more than 11,000 lives a year in the UK - much higher than previously thought.

Doctors have been calling for a complete ban on smoking in public places since November's Public Health White Paper proposed a partial ban in public places, giving pubs which do not serve food exemption from the ban. "


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...&dopt=Abstract

"The apparent effect of passive smoking on cancer risk has become an important social and political issue. For this reason alone the strength of the epidemiological evidence warrants close examination. The research published to date indicates a positive association of passive smoking with lung cancer,"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1797

[M_B]

It's not hard is it.

If you smoke cigarettes then there is scientific evidence that you'll gain a whole host of health problems, cancer being just one of them.

Given that smoking is inhaling toxic fumes, why would indirectly inhaling the same fumes without a filter not also give you health problems ?

[DodgyAgent]

"A study in the British Medical Journal this month said second-hand smoke claims more than 11,000 lives a year in the UK - much higher than previously thought.

Doctors have been calling for a complete ban on smoking in public places since November's Public Health White Paper proposed a partial ban in public places, giving pubs which do not serve food exemption from the ban. "


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...&dopt=Abstract

"The apparent effect of passive smoking on cancer risk has become an important social and political issue. For this reason alone the strength of the epidemiological evidence warrants close examination. The research published to date indicates a positive association of passive smoking with lung cancer,"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1797

A lot of "claims" and "apparents" "indicates a positive association". rather than get into a pointless squabble with link and counter link I am not claiming that passive smoking does not contribute to cancer, I am merely saying that it is not necessarily a proven fact that passive smoking causes cancer.

My original point was that if you are going to ban smoking on the grounds of harm that it does to people that alcohol falls into much the same category (in my view worse). I believe that this banning culture is a hitleresque fad that is done for no other reason than to satisfy the personal problems/interests of those instigating and supporting the ban.

And you may be interested to know that the World Health Organisation that peddled the lie that cancer was caused by passive smoking is controlled by our friends the USA

[sasguru]

"widely accepted" does not constitute hard evidence (as in actual smoking causes cancer). Like lemmings we accept these views that are foisted upon us by the vested interest lobbies (pharma companies who make money from patches) and the "controlling mafia".

I do not smoke and have never done so. I am delighted that the ban is going to improve my life. I also do not hunt and nor do I live in the country and nor would I endorse the killing of urban foxes even though they are a damn nuisance. Nor do I mind sensible legislation (about 1 in a 1000 laws fall into this category). What I object to is people who are intent on banning things for reasons that have nothing whatsoever to do with any objective reasoning.

I'm glad to know you're so accomplished as to have mastered epidemiology as well as recruitment consultancy. Impressive, indeed!

[Causus Deli]

Sobriety is scary, I am dangerous when not sedated.

[DodgyAgent]

Sobriety is scary, I am dangerous when not sedated.

at least if you are sober there is less chance of you falling off your village wall.

[Ardesco]

No one has yet to be killed by passive smoking and no one gets beaten up or killed by someone under the influence of Nicotine. What is more Hitler never banned alcohol though he did ban cigarette smoking.

WHAT ABOUT ROY CASTLE!!!!!

[DodgyAgent]

I'm glad to know you're so accomplished as to have mastered epidemiology as well as recruitment consultancy. Impressive, indeed!

I am no sex pest

[Rantor]

I am no sex pest

We'll be the judge of that