Sheffield United tribunal

**The Lone Gunman** · 3 July 2007, 08:26

Other teams have had points deducted for similar doins. Why should West Ham get away with it. They will make a small fortune by staying up. How about deducting points and relegating them. Leaving Sheffield where they are for being losers and promoting the losing play off team from the championship.

These things have to be properly dealt with.

**wendigo100** · 3 July 2007, 08:30

Yep, it's not whinging, it's looking for some consistency (and therefore justice).

**pisces** · 3 July 2007, 08:56

Better still ban West Ham from football. Should do it

**TheFaQQer** · 3 July 2007, 08:56

Originally posted by The Lone Gunman

Other teams have had points deducted for similar doins. Why should West Ham get away with it. They will make a small fortune by staying up. How about deducting points and relegating them. Leaving Sheffield where they are for being losers and promoting the losing play off team from the championship.

These things have to be properly dealt with.

IIRC, Alan Sugar appealed against a point deduction and won, on the grounds that the people that had committed the offence had left the club and it wasn't his fault. That's the same defence that West Ham would use.

Premier League will dock WH 2 points, and that will be the end of the matter.

**TheFaQQer** · 3 July 2007, 08:59

Originally posted by pisces

Better still ban West Ham from football. Should do it

Gets my vote.

Send them off to the Conference South, that should do it.

**Burdock** · 3 July 2007, 09:02

Originally posted by wendigo100

Yep, it's not whinging, it's looking for some consistency (and therefore justice).

okay, fair point, and LG too.

i guess I'm just used to unfairness and inconsistency in these matters (from refereeing decisions on the micro scale to the FA and Premier League on the macro)....and seeing the victims having to live with it.

I guess it just annoys me that Sheff. Utd. are not accepting their fate like everyone else has had to do. Plus I still think it stinks of sour grapes that they only mounted this challenge after relegation.

Will be interesting to see the verdict.

**TheFaQQer** · 3 July 2007, 09:20

There was no point in fighting it before relegation!

Problem with it taking so long is that if there was to be a new tribunal, there isn't time to get it (and the appeals) in before the start of the new season. Therefore, I would think that the obvious outcome is either that there was nothing wrong with the system, or that Sheff U are entitled to compensation but still get relegated.

I see West Ham have brought out a DVD of how they managed to escape relegation this season. I hope that they go down, even more so now that they're flogging this dross for £16

How they've padded out coverage of the tribunal to last 195 minutes beats me.

**Bagpuss** · 3 July 2007, 09:25

If it was such an infringement that it was liable for a hefty fine, how come there was no points deduction? The lower leagues are littered with clubs who have been harshly punished for more minor infringements. Add to that Middlesboro were effectively relegated a few years ago for not fulfilling a fixture due to a virus striking down the squad. There is no point having rules if they don't apply to all.

**TheFaQQer** · 3 July 2007, 09:34

Originally posted by Bagpuss

If it was such an infringement that it was liable for a hefty fine, how come there was no points deduction? The lower leagues are littered with clubs who have been harshly punished for more minor infringements. Add to that Middlesboro were effectively relegated a few years ago for not fulfilling a fixture due to a virus striking down the squad. There is no point having rules if they don't apply to all.

Exactly - the Boro one was even worse, since we were docked points and made to replay the match, which we lost. So the best possible result was a 0 point reduction, the worst was effectively a 6 point deduction, resulting in relegation.

Can't see that the Premier League will be any more consistent than HMRC, though!

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