It Looks Like an Organised Terrorist Campaign Has Started

[Let-Me-In]

I think you misunderstood my post. It wasn't very complicated but I'll try and break it down a bit for you.

The threat is being exaggerated. If these less competent people can bring some attention to themselves by doing simple things that anyone could do, why are we not being overwhelmed by the barrage of attacks we are led to believe are happening constantly and that we need protection from with ID cards and the like. There IS a threat, but it consists of nutters like those we have heard about the last few days who are probably being inspired by the stories we are being told of the 'constant threat'.

So in answer to your question, yes it is a terrorist threat. But it's not the one the government have been harping on about for 6 years. It's a smaller less organised threat that has been inspired by the made up one.

It's not news that we're being lied to of course, but I find it suprising how many people still swallow this stuff. WMD, 45 minutes, tanks at heathrow. Hey-ho.

So are we saying that 7\7 was just a lucky strike? What about 9\11?

The reason we have not seen more attacks is because we have been reasonably well informed due to undercover measures and getting intelligence from lots of sources. What is worrying is that there was no intelligence on this one, no one knew anything about it. There was a report that it was rushed because the security forces were closing in on them.

Saying that this has been played up by the government for the last 6 years in order to fuel some kind of conspiracy is just madness. It is a guarantee that we will get hit by something larger soon, will you still be saying the threat is not as big as we are told it is?

The nutters that did this are just the start. Thjey are switching tactics I reckon but it is just a start.

[AlfredJPruffock]

We all know that sometimes you try to fix a problem (Iraq), something happens (muslims use it as excuse for terrosim) and no matter how you try to continue to fix it it is never right.

In these situations it is better to throw everything out and start again with a new approach.

We should adopt the same position on how WWII was stopped. Show them we mean business and we ain't gonna take anymore of their cr@p and drop a nuke right in the middle of Iraq.

We all know that if Iraq / Afgan.. / Palestine etc. were all truly resolved, they would just come up with another excuse to justify their cause.

What problem was 'fixed' by the invasion of Iraq - what problems have been created by the invasion ?

On the balance was the invastion worth it ?

It is easier to burn a house than to build one

Chinese Proverb

[lfc69]

Ah yes.

Take off & nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...

... but you have another agenda and we are all on to you

[Let-Me-In]

What problem was 'fixed' by the invasion of Iraq - what problems have been created by the invasion ?

On the balance was the invastion worth it ?

It is easier to burn a house than to build one

Chinese Proverb

Depends on from what perspective you look from. Fromo ours then probably nothing was fixed but from the millions of Iraqis that wanted Saddam ouot, then we probably helped but I agree we have made it worse now.

I reckon we pull out and let them all kill each other. We should also stop all contact and leave them to it...

[Ardesco]

What makes me laugh is the assumption that all Muslims are now likely to self detonate....

I don't remember all Catholics getting the same rep when the IRA was active in London....

[Ardesco]

But I don't suppose having an Irish accent was terribly popular at the time...

I never noticed it being an issue tbh, maybe it's because the Irish have the gift of the gab

[BrilloPad]

Ah yes.

Take off & nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...

dont we want to get the oil out first?

[Ardesco]

dont we want to get the oil out first?

Giant Alien Space Lizards don't need puny human oil to power thier spacecraft!!!

[Buffoon]

I never noticed it being an issue tbh, maybe it's because the Irish have the gift of the gab

Once it was a case of “No Irish, No Blacks, and No Dogs”. Now being Irish and Black is dead trendy. Somehow I don’t think being a Muslim will ever have the same credibility.

[shoes]

So are we saying that 7\7 was just a lucky strike? What about 9\11?

In my opinion 7/7 was one that worked. But still a bunch of nutters who wanted to get involved in what they hear about on the news. I doubt they are part of any kind of organised network plotting our demise.

9/11 has been the trigger and the inspiration for these pale imitations we have seen since. There are a lot of people who think there is a lot still unexplained about that event, I'm not as hardcore a conspiracy theorist as those people, I just believe it was a response to the US foreign policy in the middle east. A one-off, like Lockerbie.

The reason we have not seen more attacks is because we have been reasonably well informed due to undercover measures and getting intelligence from lots of sources.

I think you give our police and security services more credit than they are due. In my opinion the desire to main and harm is not as great as it is being played out to be. I think things are a lot simpler than they are painted.

Saying that this has been played up by the government for the last 6 years in order to fuel some kind of conspiracy is just madness. It is a guarantee that we will get hit by something larger soon, will you still be saying the threat is not as big as we are told it is?

People have their own agendas for various reasons. You see this on a microlevel in any company you have worked. Maybe a contractor on a client site who is paid by the hour is happiest when the project is poorly managed. 'More extensions for me' they say. Maybe a minister who is friends with a person with a large stake in a company that will benefit greatly from the sudden need to manufacture thousands of ID cards talks up the case for ID cards when the opportunity arises.

Im not claiming there is a huge conspiracy meticulously planning what goes out on the news. There isn't enough competence in the government to handle such a thing. I don't give them that much credit. I do think however that people talk up and exagerate things when it suits them. Not as part of some planned conspiracy but for their own personal reasons. That Vaz character on the news during the 'big brother racism' nonsense comes to mind.

The nutters that did this are just the start. Thjey are switching tactics I reckon but it is just a start.

In my opinion there is no 'they'. There is no central command structure telling the footsoldiers what to do in some kind of organised 'terror network'. There are occasional acts (9/11 style) based on short sighted foreign policy that inspire socially disenfranchised and mentally ill wannabes to join 'the cause'.