Pavement cyclists

[Numptycorner]

Toyota MR2 rag top is a top car. Reliable too.

Yes I had one of those, great fun car, but no boot!

[King Cnvt]

The old Audi TT is for gaylords who work in marketing and wouldn't know a sports car if one dropped from the sky and hit them.

That's all you need to know really.

HTH

[chicane]

The old Audi TT is for gaylords who work in marketing and wouldn't know a sports car if one dropped from the sky and hit them.

That's all you need to know really.

HTH

I suspect that your comment may be offensive to gay people.

[Numptycorner]

The best sports car for 14k is a 4 year old s2000, followed by the vx220 prob 2 year old, followed by the MR2, probably 1 year old.

All these cars are cheap to service, and the mechanics are rock solid.

[dang65]

many cyclists ignore basic rules of the road, such as obeying traffic signals, stop signs, having no lights.

Thanks goodness this could never be said of car drivers, eh.

In places like France and Germany people don't think twice about cyclists riding on the pavement. In the pedestrian area round Les Halles in Paris for example, you get a mixture of pedestrians and cyclists and the pedestrians just assume that the cyclists won't ride straight into them and they mix quite happily. Here, if a cyclist is on the pavement the pedestrians start jumping around and flinging themselves "out the way" (i.e. usually in the way) as if they are some kind of small prey the cyclists are hunting down.

Just relax and keep walking in a straight line and the cyclist will be past you and on their way in seconds. Sure, it's illegal in this country. That's what we're like here. Pointless laws for all is the way we like things. But far, far more people get seriously injured and even killed on pavements by cars than ever even get gently nudged by cyclists.

Also, try cycling a few miles on the road and see how many times you get shouted at, beeped at, deliberately cut up... some people just can't handle that and end up taking refuge on the pavement. Depends on your confidence and what risks you're willing to take - £35 fine, or possibility of getting splatted. I stick to the road myself, but I can sympathise with those that don't.

[Numptycorner]

Re the original topic, I think cyclists should be allowed to ride the pavement if there are no pedestrians walking it. We are such a fat nation now most people get in the car to go to the local shop, often the pavement is empty while the road is jammed. I used to cycle to uni many moons ago, most motorists do not give any allowance for cyclists, they overtake when it's not safe to do so, they give you no room, they overtake you then immediately turn left (one brought me of doing that). Sometimes it's the only safe option.

[n5gooner]

As a responsible cyclist, it pisses me off too.

snap me too!!!

[Numptycorner]

snap me too!!!

So imagine you are on a country lane, the traffic is stationary, you can't go up the inside because there is no gap becuae the motorists have not thought of other road users, do you wait 15 minutes for the traffic to move, or do you use the empty wide pavement at the side of you where ther is space to ride on the grass should you need to pass?

[MrsGoof]

So imagine you are on a country lane, the traffic is stationary, you can't go up the inside because there is no gap becuae the motorists have not thought of other road users, do you wait 15 minutes for the traffic to move, or do you use the empty wide pavement at the side of you where ther is space to ride on the grass should you need to pass?

I just pop the front wheel up and over the cars I go

since there is so much traffic I'll be gone before they realise

[Moscow Mule]

So imagine you are on a country lane, the traffic is stationary, you can't go up the inside because there is no gap becuae the motorists have not thought of other road users, do you wait 15 minutes for the traffic to move, or do you use the empty wide pavement at the side of you where ther is space to ride on the grass should you need to pass?

A country lane with no pavement?

As a cyclist you're always allowed to overtake on the right in stationary traffic.

I find a shrill whistle or bell helps too.