BBC Have your Say - paedophiles

[WotNxt]

The wrongful conviction is slightly separate, in that even if the possibility could be removed, I'd still be 100% against the death penalty as a judicial tool.

Even if the worst criminals don't feel remorse for their crimes, I assert my difference from them by not acting like them and by rejecting the death penalty. I believe it's murder, simple as that. I doubt we'll convince each other on this one. You may think that's b0llocks if you want.

I assert my difference from them by not committing the crimes. If capital punishment were legal then it would NOT be murder since murder is a crime.

The only problem is that if capital punishment were re-introduced it would probably be run by Group 4 or some such outfit. What we really need is easyExecution or Virgin running it.

[Rantor]

I assert my difference from them by not committing the crimes. If capital punishment were legal then it would NOT be murder since murder is a crime.

The only problem is that if capital punishment were re-introduced it would probably be run by Group 4 or some such outfit. What we really need is easyExecution or Virgin running it.

Ok, hold a referendum on it - bound to win BUT executions would have to be carried out by yes voters selected by lottery. Failure to carry out said civic duty is punishable by death.

All televised of course.

[Ardesco]

Burning. Burying alive is good as well.

Seeing as there's such an interest in this, and in making the penal system less expensive, I'd like to introduce sponsored live Pay per View celebrtiy fights to the death.

Saddam Hussein vs Paris Hilton

I'd pay good money to watch that.

May have a problem there, Saddam is already dead. How about Paris Hilton vs A Brick Wall and the only weapon she is allowed to hit the wall with is her face. I'd definetly pay to see that!!

[WotNxt]

Do you not think mentally ill people are entitled to help?

Cut the attitude please.

Yes. Do you not think that kids are entitled to protection from nutters?

[pisces]

Yes. Do you not think that kids are entitled to protection from nutters?

Yes.

[Old Greg]

I assert my difference from them by not committing the crimes. If capital punishment were legal then it would NOT be murder since murder is a crime.

The only problem is that if capital punishment were re-introduced it would probably be run by Group 4 or some such outfit. What we really need is easyExecution or Virgin running it.

I understand your postion. But murder is not only defined by its legal status - I would still consider it murder from a moral perspective, even if not legally so. For example, I believe that when criminals are executed by the State of Texas or by the Chinese state, they are murdered.

[WotNxt]

I understand your postion. But murder is not only defined by its legal status - I would still consider it murder from a moral perspective, even if not legally so. For example, I believe that when criminals are executed by the State of Texas or by the Chinese state, they are murdered.

So non-rehabilitable criminals should be kept as a drain on society?

How much does it cost to keep one high-security prisoner in gaol for a year?

How many people earning the average wage need to pay tax for a year to pay for them?

Why SHOULD they?

[Rantor]

So non-rehabilitable criminals should be kept as a drain on society?

How much does it cost to keep one high-security prisoner in gaol for a year?

How many people earning the average wage need to pay tax for a year to pay for them?

Why SHOULD they?

Beacuse even if they cannot be moral creatures there is no reason why we should abandon our values and morals.

Plus, stringing up innocent people is not so good.

[WotNxt]

Beacuse even if they cannot be moral creatures there is no reason why we should abandon our values and morals.

Plus, stringing up innocent people is not so good.

YOUR values and morals. Not MY values and morals.

Where are YOUR values and morals leading this country?

The rise of the chavvy scummy criminal classes who know they can get away with virtually anything or at least only get a minor punishment due to apologists and soft bleeding heart liberals with no backbone?

I say it is time the law abiding majority stands up for itself while it is still the majority. We need to push the expectations of everyone back towards the idea of crime being unusual rather than the norm. People need to have justice and to see it being done - this is NOT currently happening. The chavvy scummy crims will have more respect for others if they come to understand we will not take it up the a*** lying down any more.

Have already discussed earlier in this thread the issue of safeguards to try to avoid mistakes.

[Rantor]

YOUR values and morals. Not MY values and morals.

Where are YOUR values and morals leading this country?

The rise of the chavvy scummy criminal classes who know they can get away with virtually anything or at least only get a minor punishment due to apologists and soft bleeding heart liberals with no backbone?

I say it is time the law abiding majority stands up for itself while it is still the majority. We need to push the expectations of everyone back towards the idea of crime being unusual rather than the norm. People need to have justice and to see it being done - this is NOT currently happening. The chavvy scummy crims will have more respect for others if they come to understand we will not take it up the a*** lying down any more.

Have already discussed earlier in this thread the issue of safeguards to try to avoid mistakes.

Firstly, I was not aware that not executing/maiming criminals was leading the country to fall apart.

Secondly, they are not just my morals. The fact that most of us don't get murdered by individuals or the state assures me of that.

You can capitalise all you want but you are not promoting anything to protect anybody's interest.

You do not seem to be able to tell the difference between justice and pandering to your all-consuming rage.