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    #21
    I am looking for long term investment here, pension type stuff. So I keep it ages, pay of the mortgage and then any rental is profit, or keep it long enough that I can pay of the mortgage and sell at some point, pocketing the full value.
    Politicians are wonderfull people, as long as they stay away from things they don't understand, like working for a living!

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      #22
      Originally posted by threaded
      Yes, you buy the house at auction.
      Have you been to a UK residential (or commercial) auction recently?

      Every Tom, Dick & Harry is in there thinking they are the next property tycoon and paying over the odds for property.

      Due to a rising market, so far so good, but...

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        #23
        Originally posted by portseven
        I am looking for long term investment here, pension type stuff. So I keep it ages, pay of the mortgage and then any rental is profit, or keep it long enough that I can pay of the mortgage and sell at some point, pocketing the full value.
        I wonder if everyone "investing for the long term" will be able to hold their nerve when prices start to tank? Or will some people sell out, triggering an even bigger sell off?

        Did you see the new home sales data released in the states today?

        "the median price of a new home sold last month fell to $229,100, a record 11.1 percent decline from the previous month. The big price decline indicated that builders are slashing prices in an effort to move a huge overhang of unsold homes."

        The credit crunch is heading this way, via spain and Ireland, stopping at a BTL market near you soon....

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          #24
          Originally posted by Clippy
          Have you been to a UK residential (or commercial) auction recently?

          Every Tom, Dick & Harry is in there thinking they are the next property tycoon and paying over the odds for property.

          Due to a rising market, so far so good, but...
          Got me there, I've only been selling in the UK for the last few years and the last ones went on the market in the past few days. The markets peaked and I'm off...
          Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
          threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Clippy
            Have you been to a UK residential (or commercial) auction recently?

            Every Tom, Dick & Harry is in there thinking they are the next property tycoon and paying over the odds for property.

            Due to a rising market, so far so good, but...
            Exactly, and remember these are largely properties they couldn't sell in a rising market. A fool and his money etc...
            The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

            But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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              #26
              Originally posted by pickle
              I wonder if everyone "investing for the long term" will be able to hold their nerve when prices start to tank? Or will some people sell out, triggering an even bigger sell off?
              I suspect the newbie Rigsbys and those with big BTL mortgages will bail out early on and leave those with a bit more experience standing.

              I read a few months ago repossessions are on the up (nowhere near 90's levels, admittedly) but, surprise surprise, this isn't being widely reported.

              Also the Halifax has recreated it's auction arm after closing their last one down many years ago!

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                #27
                Allsop had their first 2 day auction in several years a few months ago. Before that there weren't enough properties
                The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                  #28
                  Bagpuss - have you 'dipped' in the auction market before?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bagpuss
                    There is a lot of stupid people out there madly spending money which isn't theres.
                    Surely the stupid people are the ones that are spendnig the money that is thiers.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Clippy
                      Bagpuss - have you 'dipped' in the auction market before?
                      I've looked into it over the last couple of years I've even done a couple of phone bids, but as you said things are going for far over estimate, so much so I can't see the value. I worked out the max spend from a rental perspective and stuck to that, bearing in mind the estimates take into yield.

                      I can only conclude people aren't doing the maths or thinking about what they are doing. It's probably all these daytime housing shows that are to blame. Even the properties with regulated tenancies were going for far too much (and they are a massive gamble).

                      Still as rates rise we could be about to see some possibilities once more.
                      The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                      But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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