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    #11
    Originally posted by dang65
    Not really, but I do think that private cars are a massive luxury which everyone treats themselves to without a second thought. Look at it this way:

    If you want to go swimming then you have a few options. You could build a private swimming pool in your back garden; you could take out membership of the local private health club; you could go to the local community leisure centre; or you could go and swim in the nearest river.

    Walking or cycling is the equivalent of swimming in the nearest river; getting a bus or the train is like the leisure centre; using a taxi or first class on the train is like the private health club.

    Running your own private car, or more than one, is like having a private swimming pool in your back garden.

    I'm sure I read that there are more families in the UK with two cars than families with no car at all. People see car ownership as a normal fact of life, like having running water and electricity, and they throw a hissy fit if anyone makes any attempt to reduce the damage being done.

    It made me laugh recently when there was a letter in our local paper complaining about the state of the car park at an NHS doctor's surgery in town. The people that complained must have only ever parked in the Tesco's car park or the council car park, which are both well maintained. If they'd ever cycled or walked around town they would be aware that every road is a churned up death trap of pot-holes and worn surfaces. They don't ever see that because they never get out of their cars, and they're so used to speed humps and bumping up on the kerb to park that they don't even register the state of the roads as they drive along.

    I'm not allowed to use rude words on this forum, but think of a really bad one and that's what most car commuters are.
    So to summarise - you are saying we should all give up the car and cycle to work?
    How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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      #12
      Originally posted by Kyajae
      I bought mine from new in 2002. Apart from normal things wearing out like tyres and brake pads, the only thing that failed is the starter motor last year. I haven't even needed to replace a bulb since I bought it. I rest my case.
      How many miles before your starter motor went?
      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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        #13
        Originally posted by Troll
        How many miles before your starter motor went?
        About 78,000

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          #14
          Originally posted by Troll
          So to summarise - you are saying we should all give up the car and cycle to work?
          I cycle to work, but still have several cars.
          Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
          threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Troll
            So to summarise - you are saying we should all give up the car and cycle to work?
            Do what you want. It'll just use the oil up quicker and get the whole thing over with and we can get back to a bit of peace and quiet. Cars are just a blip in human history. Sooner they're a distant memory, like sewage running in the streets, the better.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Kyajae
              About 78,000
              Not too bad - my last new Ford (mondeo) had the starter, steering knuckle & electric window motor go at 15k - put me off Fords - although I have heard the Zetecs are much improved.

              Went Jap and 160k miles from new with service items
              How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                #17
                Originally posted by dang65
                Do what you want. It'll just use the oil up quicker and get the whole thing over with and we can get back to a bit of peace and quiet. Cars are just a blip in human history. Sooner they're a distant memory, like sewage running in the streets, the better.
                So we will have to de-construct all of the Western economies.Revert to a horse drawn mode of transport and all commuting to be within cycling or walking distance only.

                No Air transport - no exotic fruit or veg out of season
                No next day delivery
                No economy of scale - localised production only (do you really want that steel mill on your doorstep)
                No globalisation- no cheap imports from China (only the local hardware store selling local tat for local people)

                ... does this sound like a Utopia?
                How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                  #18
                  Natch, the singularity will happen first.
                  Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
                  threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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                    #19
                    'It'll just use the oil up quicker and get the whole thing over with and we can get back to a bit of peace and quiet. Cars are just a blip in human history. ',


                    don't think so old chap, petrol cars may become redundant but diesels will be running on peanut oil or rape seed oil when the fossil oil runs out

                    peanut oil will make fertile regions of africa prosperous, buy fertile farmland with good water sources while you can, will be worth a fortune in the future

                    Milan.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Kyajae
                      I bought mine from new in 2002. Apart from normal things wearing out like tyres and brake pads, the only thing that failed is the starter motor last year. I haven't even needed to replace a bulb since I bought it. I rest my case.
                      If it were a Toyota the starter motor wouldn't have failed
                      I remember the good old days of this site when people used to moan about serious contractor related issues like house prices and immigration. How times have changed!?

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