Steve "f**king" McClaren

[Bluebird]

Go on steve you can do it

[wendigo100]

alot less then 20 tournaments as well

Since 1966:

1. Euro 1968
2. World Cup 1970
3. Euro 1972
4. World Cup 1974
5. Euro 1976
6. World Cup 1978
7. Euro 1980
8. World Cup 1982
9. Euro 1984
10. World Cup 1986
11. Euro 1988
12. World Cup 1990
13. Euro 1992
14. World Cup 1994
15. Euro 1996
16. World Cup 1998
17. Euro 2000
18. World Cup 2002
19. Euro 2004
20. World Cup 2006

[wendigo100]

maybe counting is the problem with the England team .................. I'm going to get it now aren't I.

Yes

[wendigo100]

Go on steve you can do it

Oy! We all know where you come from with a name like that!

[Bluebird]

Oy! We all know where you come from with a name like that!

Yes I shall be in the Mill Stad tonight watching the mighty reds scrape to a draw against San Marino - whats the betting on Toshack & McClaren both getting sacked this time tomorrow ?

[sasguru]

Yeah, what's the point in that? England fans aren't happy unless England are winning the world cup or Euros every year.

We've tried about ten different managers over about 20 tournaments since 1966, without even reaching a final, so perhaps the problem runs a bit deeper than the manager?

Yes. The players aren't good enough. The Premiership emphasises force and speed at the expense of thought and technique. We always lose when we play the more subtle technical teams.

[wendigo100]

Yes I shall be in the Mill Stad tonight watching the mighty reds scrape to a draw against San Marino - whats the betting on Toshack & McClaren both getting sacked this time tomorrow ?

Can we buy Bellamy and Giggs off you? Or even Earnshaw?

[Bluebird]

Can we buy Bellamy and Giggs off you? Or even Earnshaw?

What ?

You've already pinched Michael Owen - then you went and broke him !

Watch out for Jermaine Easter for us tonight - he's going to be a star

[wendigo100]

Yes. The players aren't good enough. The Premiership emphasises force and speed at the expense of thought and technique. We always lose when we play the more subtle technical teams.

I'm not sure about the players not being good enough (apart from the lack of strikers), but you're right, there is definitely something about the set-up over here that fecks up our national side.

[wendigo100]

You've already pinched Michael Owen - then you went and broke him !

Watch out for Jermaine Easter for us tonight - he's going to be a star

Owen broke himself - he twisted his knee trying to do a clever fart to impress the fourth official.

Easter - League 2 - but he did score against Chelsea didn't he?