Reply to: Steve "f**king" McClaren

[sasguru]

This is a typical example of "informed" opinion from the masses.

Gerrard was great last night, but in the more difficult Israel game the stats show Lampard was more successful at each of passing, tackling and creating chances than he was.

You can play one or the other, but not both it seems.

Aye as I pointed out elsewhere. It seems most "fans" just listen to what they are told in the media, rather than thinking for themselves.
What say you and I take over as joint national managers? I'll perform the Venables role and you can take the flak

[wendigo100]

Fat Frank Lumpard out of the game tonight.

thank f**k.

This is a typical example of "informed" opinion from the masses.

Gerrard was great last night, but in the more difficult Israel game the stats show Lampard was more successful at each of passing, tackling and creating chances than he was.

You can play one or the other, but not both it seems.

[freakydancer]

Fat Frank Lumpard out of the game tonight.

thank f**k.

[wendigo100]

geek

I can see where you were coming from though - similar results, and they all sort of merge into one over the years!

[TheRightStuff]

Since Ramsey:

1. Mercer
2. Revie
3. Greenwood
4. Robson
5. Taylor
6. Venables
7. Hoddle
8. Keegan
9. Eriksson
10. McClaren

And that doesn't include Taylor or Wilkinson.

geek

[Bluebird]

I'd take Giggs but Bellamy is a jumped up little tulip.

Don't rate him as a player aswell.

poor boy is just misunderstood.

I used to know his brother who was an ok guy, met Craig once when he was with Norwich didn't seem to be the arrogant s41t the papers make out.

Mind you he does like the odd court case

[sasguru]

I'm not sure about the players not being good enough (apart from the lack of strikers), but you're right, there is definitely something about the set-up over here that fecks up our national side.

Fair enough, the talent does exist but is trained in the wrong way. France's recent success is no accident - in the 80s they overhauled their academy system with the results we have seen in the last few years. It took 10-15 years before the new players fed through the system. It will take nothing less to achieve the same results here.

[freakydancer]

Can we buy Bellamy and Giggs off you? Or even Earnshaw?

I'd take Giggs but Bellamy is a jumped up little tulip.

Don't rate him as a player aswell.

[Bluebird]

Easter - League 2 - but he did score against Chelsea didn't he?

yep, and yep - but he's on the up...

Cardiff boy see, Like Bellers, Giggs, Bale & Cotterill....

Wish we could have that lot playing for us against Sunderland saturday...

[wendigo100]

You've already pinched Michael Owen - then you went and broke him !

Watch out for Jermaine Easter for us tonight - he's going to be a star

Owen broke himself - he twisted his knee trying to do a clever fart to impress the fourth official.

Easter - League 2 - but he did score against Chelsea didn't he?

[wendigo100]

Yes. The players aren't good enough. The Premiership emphasises force and speed at the expense of thought and technique. We always lose when we play the more subtle technical teams.

I'm not sure about the players not being good enough (apart from the lack of strikers), but you're right, there is definitely something about the set-up over here that fecks up our national side.

[Bluebird]

Can we buy Bellamy and Giggs off you? Or even Earnshaw?

What ?

You've already pinched Michael Owen - then you went and broke him !

Watch out for Jermaine Easter for us tonight - he's going to be a star

[wendigo100]

Yes I shall be in the Mill Stad tonight watching the mighty reds scrape to a draw against San Marino - whats the betting on Toshack & McClaren both getting sacked this time tomorrow ?

Can we buy Bellamy and Giggs off you? Or even Earnshaw?

[sasguru]

Yeah, what's the point in that? England fans aren't happy unless England are winning the world cup or Euros every year.

We've tried about ten different managers over about 20 tournaments since 1966, without even reaching a final, so perhaps the problem runs a bit deeper than the manager?

Yes. The players aren't good enough. The Premiership emphasises force and speed at the expense of thought and technique. We always lose when we play the more subtle technical teams.

[Bluebird]

Oy! We all know where you come from with a name like that!

Yes I shall be in the Mill Stad tonight watching the mighty reds scrape to a draw against San Marino - whats the betting on Toshack & McClaren both getting sacked this time tomorrow ?