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[The Lone Gunman]

The issue for the Govt is NICs, to them that is what IR35 is about.

And Clause 4 is about nationalisation, not about government getting out of the way and letting self-employed people run their own business.


Your suggestion that Clause 4 kills IR35 is most appealing, but I think it is poetic rather than political.

You are probably right, but I reckon with a decent legal mind and a following wind you could argue that contracting is the embodiment of Clause 4 at a fundamental level. The "common ownership" and running is clearly not about millions of individual companies, but there is no reason it shouldn't be. I think Tony Ben and Red Ken went down that route when they voted against IR35.

You make a good point on NICs in the first place. For them it is the issue, for us it is not.
I would ask again how much was paid by Green and Levy and others in NICs? I bet greens bill would cover every contractor in the UK.

[edit]Sorry, I have hijacked a perfectly good thread with IR35.

[Euro-commuter]

[edit]Sorry, I have hijacked a perfectly good thread with IR35.

Happens occasionally

[wendigo100]

Two points about Cameron:

1. His number one priority has been to detox the tories

2. If he is upsetting the Daily Mail, it must be working