NL discriminating against graduates?!?

[Denny]

That's quite a chip on your shoulder

I don't have any "chip on my shoulder."

I don't use cliches either - which demonstrates the supremacy of my education compared to yours.

I take it you are some posh twat who went to public school and talks like you've got a plum stuffed in your mouth.

[DimPrawn]

Sounds like the class war is far from dead, sadly....

[snaw]

I love the Socialist mind.

Every little imbalance in the universe can be put right by carefully drafted legislation. That's it, if we add more to that, take that away, monitor those, put a quota on them, tax those a lot, give credits to them, have a national database on those, it all becomes equal and "fair".

Idiots.

I think this is an issue that's fair game to be addressed, which probably has several different viable way's to be solved/helped. Not sure that apathy works though, and I've yet to any society which does nothing where market forces do the trick on their own.

You have a solution DP or just happy to disparaging those from beneath your higher station in life?

[Troll]

I don't have any "chip on my shoulder."

I don't use cliches either - which demonstrates the supremacy of my education compared to yours.

I take it you are some posh twat who went to public school and talks like you've got a plum stuffed in your mouth.

Council House till I was 12, Grammar school,fading Manchester dialect HTH

[Gonzo]

Fecking socialist... NL stopped the assisted places scheme which took away yours and others from poor backgrounds the chance of going to grammar.

Er, I thought that the assisted places scheme provided places in private schools for the bright children from disadvantaged backgrounds?

The grammar schools provided a state school opportunity for the bright kids to get an academic education which would set them up for a professional career and/or University.

Of course Labour don't like either of these things. Bring everyone down to the same level, then everything is fair

[DodgyAgent]

I think this is an issue that's fair game to be addressed, which probably has several different viable way's to be solved/helped. Not sure that apathy works though, and I've yet to any society which does nothing where market forces do the trick on their own.

You have a solution DP or just happy to disparaging those from beneath your higher station in life?

If you removed every socialist and every socialist policy then the world would be a better place, by no means perfect but a lot better. The challenge is how to apply the positive dynamics of market forces to the public sector. A serious debate about a voucher scheme for education, turning all schools into privately run organisations under license. More boarding schools for children who live in dysfunctional families and the reintroduction of borstals that are charged with bringing the very best out of chidren who have fallen into a life of crime.

We need more Hogwarts It worked for Harry Potter

[Gonzo]

I don't have any "chip on my shoulder."

I don't use cliches either - which demonstrates the supremacy of my education compared to yours.

I take it you are some posh twat who went to public school and talks like you've got a plum stuffed in your mouth.

Hmm, you started well there Denny but the last sentence rather gives away the "middle class inferiority complex", and I am sure that the plummy speaking bit counts as a cliche, so you have rather contradicted yourself.

[DimPrawn]

You have a solution DP or just happy to disparaging those from beneath your higher station in life?

I have a solution. It's called stop voting Labour.

Once everyone does that, things will sort themselves out nicely.

[snaw]

If you removed every socialist and every socialist policy then the world would be a better place, by no means perfect but a lot better. The challenge is how to apply the positive dynamics of market forces to the public sector. A serious debate about a voucher scheme for education, turning all schools into privately run organisations under license. More boarding schools for children who live in dysfunctional families and the reintroduction of borstals that are charged with bringing the very best out of chidren who have fallen into a life of crime.

We need more Hogwarts It worked for Harry Potter

I spent a fair chunk of my school life under Maggie T, who was by no means a socialist, and I don't recall schools being all that great DA. It's one of the few areas where I agree with you on solutions, but blaming the whole thing on a socialist outlook completely misses the point, especially if you consider that quite a few of the countries widels held to have the best school systems happen to be socialist. Get the blinkers off.

As for borstals, you're fecking joking arent you? They're crime finishing schools, I don't know anyone who went to one of those who didn't come out a more hardened criminal and sending kids to boarding schools cause their families are dysfunctional, that's just a recipe for disaster (Not too mention is this only for poor kids or better off ones too?)

[Troll]

Er, I thought that the assisted places scheme provided places in private schools for the bright children from disadvantaged backgrounds?

The grammar schools provided a state school opportunity for the bright kids to get an academic education which would set them up for a professional career and/or Univestity.

Of course Labour don't like either of these things. Bring everyone down to the same level, then everything is fair

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