The Great Global Warming Swindle

[Buffoon]

I don't know enough to say either way but to suggest the 'eco mentalists' are just a bunch off neo marxists with nothing better to do than stifle the developing world and that eco journalists were just trying to safeguard their jobs was a bit OTT if you ask me, there must be more to it... or not?

The only thing extra is that governments are abusing it to raise more revenue through ‘green taxes’.

[DimPrawn]

When it was called Global Warming, all anyone needed to do to prove C02 from fossil fuels was not to blame was wait until it got colder.

Now it is called Climate Change, it does not matter whether it gets colder, warmer, wetter, drier, it will always be due to 4x4's in Chelsea.

HTH

[ratewhore]

4. Life is too short to kid yourself you can 'make a difference' to the planet, make the best you can during what is a short time alive and shuffle off after producing a lifetimes CO2. All this hand wringing, 'social conscious', middle class guilt for being alive is getting right on my t1ts.

Knickers - time to sell the hybrid and get an aston then...

loosely related, check out these ads run by the Red Cross in San Fran to promote earthquake awareness:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpdefil...ith/414017909/

[pisces]

After watching last night's programme on ch4 I am totally convinced that global warming is a big swindle by governments and treehuggers. The graph of solar activity v temp matches perfectly while co2 v temp does not match. Now time to roll back green taxes.

It was very well presented too. I watched quite sceptically but pretty much agreed by the end.

[gingerjedi]

It was very well presented too. I watched quite sceptically but pretty much agreed by the end.

It was well put together and very convincing, it has moved me from 'eco mentalist' to 'I don't know' I just feel it was so completely one sided that I can’t take what they said as gospel.

[sasguru]

Why did they not allow anyone with opposing views on?

[DimPrawn]

Why did they not allow anyone with opposing views on?

Time to trot out your tired IPCC Government sponsored one sided report?

[realityhack]

Flame away if you like - I haven't properly formed my opinions about the whole global warming thing yet, but I took note of who was interviewed and cited in last night's documentary, and typed the names into exxonsecrets - which cross-referenced them with lobbyists, thinktanks and policy research institutes part-funded or co-governed by just one oil company and it's associates, Exxonmobil.

The map this generated is here (click launch & skip), with the scientists from the programme in the middle, along with those they cited, linked to a range of organisations funded (and in some cases with CEOs) by and from the big oilco.

Draw your own conclusions - I'm mildly suspicious, but will wait and see what comes out in the media wash.

[zathras]

Flame away if you like - I haven't properly formed my opinions about the whole global warming thing yet, but I took note of who was interviewed and cited in last night's documentary, and typed the names into exxonsecrets - which cross-referenced them with lobbyists, thinktanks and policy research institutes part-funded or co-governed by just one oil company and it's associates, Exxonmobil.

The map this generated is here (click launch & skip), with the scientists from the programme in the middle, along with those they cited, linked to a range of organisations funded (and in some cases with CEOs) by and from the big oilco.

Draw your own conclusions - I'm mildly suspicious, but will wait and see what comes out in the media wash.

The question of funding was asked and answered in last nights programme. None of those interviewed were paid by Industrial combines. At least one was a former member of the IPCC.

Anyway Pray tell, what is the difference between someone paid by say ExxonMobile and someone paid by Gordon Brown, or Greenpeace, or any other body.

Climate change grants have multiplied by magnitudes, there is too much money available in justifying it.

[realityhack]

The question of funding was asked and answered in last nights programme. None of those interviewed were paid by Industrial combines.

I know - I was watching the programme and saw Richard Lindzen say "I've never accepted any funding from oilcos" as I was reading the following:

Ross Gelbspan reported in 1995 that Lindzen "charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels, and a speech he wrote, entitled 'Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,' was underwritten by OPEC."