You really have to laugh....

[Zigenare]

No, if you've been on this forum much at all, you'll know easily enough where Mal's political leanings lie and Dhoog is the same. Zigenare would vote N.A. if he was allowed to.

Nope, I along with probably most of England would vote for your independence. It would be yet another case of the English fixing Scotland's problems for them.

[TestMangler]

A party that has failed with education, health, drug problems, poverty, crime, any other thing you care to mantion that has only one trick, a new "referendum" makes me shudder.
They are a one trick pony that has not managed to make anything "better" for Scotland since they got in, they are good at spending money, not so good on getting quality products with what they are spending.
Frankly if they do have one and they win it I hope the rest of the UK shuts everything off that goes into the coffers in Scotland. Re route the oil lines to Hull like they did with the gas pipes. Take everything that the UK has away.

And I'm part Scots on my dad's side....

Let them be "independent" with a new currency, the Bank of Scotland and no income whatsoever from the UK. And put a sodding border up.

Percentage of children in poverty, 2019/20, by country:

• UK – 27%
• Wales – 34%
• England – 29%
• Scotland – 21%
• Northern Ireland – 24%

Me thinks you listen to English cabinet members who spout this 'fix your failing xxxxxx' in response to any questions from Scottish MPs. If the performance at a UK level could prove it delivered a better NHS etc by the track record of the Tory Govt, I'd vote for them, but it's a proven fact that they can't. Scottish NHS outperforms England and Wales by most published statistics. You think the SNP are failing Scotland ? The tories are failing the english electorate way worse.

[Zigenare]

Percentage of children in poverty, 2019/20, by country:

• UK – 27%
• Wales – 34%
• England – 29%
• Scotland – 21%
• Northern Ireland – 24%

Me thinks you listen to English cabinet members who spout this 'fix your failing xxxxxx' in response to any questions from Scottish MPs. If the performance at a UK level could prove it delivered a better NHS etc by the track record of the Tory Govt, I'd vote for them, but it's a proven fact that they can't. Scottish NHS outperforms England and Wales by most published statistics. You think the SNP are failing Scotland ? The tories are failing the english electorate way worse.

You can't count. According to https://cpag.org.uk/scotland/child-poverty/facts

[TestMangler]

You can't count. According to https://cpag.org.uk/scotland/child-poverty/facts

Figures I quoted came from ONS via a UK government website, so it's not me that can't count. Maybe go back to polishing your rifle or something.

[Zigenare]

Figures I quoted came from ONS via a UK government website, so it's not me that can't count. Maybe go back to polishing your rifle or something.

Of course they did - it's customary to publish ones source.

It is said that when one resorts to insults then the the argument is lost. You lost yours in 2014.

[malvolio]

Figures I quoted came from ONS via a UK government website, so it's not me that can't count. Maybe go back to polishing your rifle or something.

OK, but perhaps you need to better understand the meaning of child poverty. It's measured against the median income of the country, so bare numbers don't tell the whole story. Wales's is crap because there's not a lot of wealthy people there, England is higher than Scotland because its median income is probably double that of Scotland.

Incidentally, quoting NHS numbers is meaningless, that £152bn a year is very badly spent across the whole UK and outcomes are pretty much level. Also, the life expectancy of a male in Glasgow is lower than that of several African countries. Go figure.

[Lost It]

Somewhat altered by population levels too...

I was thinking about the "Ideal" seperation agreement. I think what Canada has with the USA would work well if Scotland became independent. More of less same language, two completely different systems.

[Zigenare]

Somewhat altered by population levels too...

I was thinking about the "Ideal" seperation agreement. I think what Canada has with the USA would work well if Scotland became independent. More of less same language, two completely different systems.

Think more "Quebec" and the rest of Canada...