Shock News: Judge makes common sense rulling

[Cowboy Bob]

You're being ridiculous now. In this case the difference with these signs is that they are illuminated internally rather than externally so they have a little black rim around the edge that seals in the light bulb instead of being flat with a light shining down on to them. It's so blatently obvious that they are legitimate signs that it's impossible to believe that anyone could think otherwise. There is no doubt whatsoever. Anyone who has been across Tower Bridge has seen them and everyone knows what they mean and that they are legitimate. This is simply a case of a bunch of low-lifes who have heard from "a mate of a mate of an ambulance chasing lawyer" that they can get away without paying their fines. The high court judge has quite correctly stopped that nonsense.

[threaded]

I have a counter example: did a quick google and at least one London visitor site warns that the signs are unclear.

[Spacecadet]

I have a counter example: did a quick google and at least one London visitor site warns that the signs are unclear.

nice of you to back that up with a link to either the google search or the London Visitor site

[Cowboy Bob]

The way to settle this is to see a picture of said signs. My Google fu is obviously lacking as I can find loads of pictures of Tower Bridge but none of the signs....

Edit - Ah ha, here we go - http://fivedayslondon.site.voila.fr/...dgeFromBus.jpg

Are those 20mph signs misleading to anyone here?

[threaded]

nice of you to back that up with a link to either the google search or the London Visitor site

Google isn't hard to use you know, try "london bridge traffic signs" and see what you get.

[Spacecadet]

Google isn't hard to use you know, try "london bridge traffic signs" and see what you get.

thats what i did
found one visitors site, most comments being FOR the speed limit
oh and heres a link
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/41941

[Cowboy Bob]

For info, the ones at the other side are those that are illuminated internally, like this one - http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...h_sign_203.jpg - including the little "black band"

[Spacecadet]

For info, the ones at the other end are those that are illuminated internally, like this one - http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...h_sign_203.jpg - including the little "black band"

Agreed, the black band on that 60 limit sign is so distracting!

[Paddy]

The way to settle this is to see a picture of said signs. My Google fu is obviously lacking as I can find loads of pictures of Tower Bridge but none of the signs....

Edit - Ah ha, here we go - http://fivedayslondon.site.voila.fr/...dgeFromBus.jpg

Are those 20mph signs misleading to anyone here?

Looking at the picture, the 20 mph signs seem to be illegal in another way. Tower Bridge Road is part of the A100, a major road. According the Road Traffic act any change in urban speed restrictions within a major road with streetlights must be accompanied by illuminated speed restriction signs. The signs in the picture are not illuminated.

[Spacecadet]

Looking at the picture, the 20 mph signs seem to be illegal in another way. Tower Bridge Road is part of the A100, a major road. According the Road Traffic act any change in urban speed restrictions within a major road with streetlights must be accompanied by illuminated speed restriction signs. The signs in the picture are not illuminated.

read all previous posts thoroughly and you'll find that they are illuminated from an internal light source.