Has anybody ever listed NOTEPAD as a skill on their CV?

[Spacecadet]

Back in the days of good old fashioned manual typewriters a usual thing to NOT have on your CV would be:

Proficient in the use of Tippex.

I used to work with a guy who had been in IT so long that when he first started he didn't even have a PC, code was written by hand then passed to engineers who made the cards to feed in to the machine. They would then give you the results back.

[xoggoth]

Anyone with any sense would use notepad in preference to those, more trouble than they are worth. I would call it hard-coding because I am HARD. Oo you lookin at?

Shut up space-cadet. Ah! the old Elliot 405. Turn computer on, 40 minutes feeding the operating system in on tape then 20 minutes feeding the ALGOL compiler in on tape. We were real men in those days.

[andy]

real men use vi editor
notepad is for poofs

[expat]

I used to work with a guy who had been in IT so long that when he first started he didn't even have a PC, code was written by hand then passed to engineers who made the cards to feed in to the machine. They would then give you the results back.

Passed to punch girls.


PS I have SPFLite open on my desktop right now. "X ALL;F ALL ...." can't be beaten.

[bogeyman]

But we don't need to put any of this stuff on our CVs as we're expected to know it. Mainframers are professionals

Amen to that!

As a former MVS sysprog (last worked as such in 1996), I know full-well that you had to know a shed load of stuff and really understand it.

No Googling back then boys! No way of winging it with an O'Reilly Nutshell book on your lap.

You had to know S/3x0 Assembler, JCL, all the odd bits of syntax for parmlib and JES init, as well as the run-of-the mill COBOL, PL/I. REXX, CLIST etc.

Not to mention VSAM, VTAM, NCP, CICS, DB2, IMS and a ton of other acronyms, whos technical details would blow the minds of the .NETers around here.

[OwlHoot]

Good old vi (NOT)

Whenever I needed to edit something I used the following method

FTP
Notepad
FTP

At one client site they told me a contractor hired some months previously for Unix work used to do exactly that, and the only "editor" he could or would use was Microsoft Word. He'd go through the whole rigmarole over and over again, even for making miniscule changes to get scripts to compile.

Needless to say they kicked him out after a couple of days ..

[DimPrawn]

Amen to that!

As a former MVS sysprog (last worked as such in 1996), I know full-well that you had to know a shed load of stuff and really understand it.

No Googling back then boys! No way of winging it with an O'Reilly Nutshell book on your lap.

You had to know S/3x0 Assembler, JCL, all the odd bits of syntax for parmlib and JES init, as well as the run-of-the mill COBOL, PL/I. REXX, CLIST etc.

Not to mention VSAM, VTAM, NCP, CICS, DB2, IMS and a ton of other acronyms, whos technical details would blow the minds of the .NETers around here.

Sounds like a load of spazzy nonesense to me. I'll stick to knowing nothing, dragging and dropping the odd thing in BizTalk and billing £10K a month. Kerrrr ching!

[Cowboy Bob]

Sounds like a load of spazzy nonesense to me. I'll stick to knowing nothing, dragging and dropping the odd thing in BizTalk and billing £10K a month. Kerrrr ching!

Sounds like a good approach, until .NET becomes last years thing. Do you have the underlying knowledge to transfer to another market segment? There are many tales of woe regarding contractors whose skills are suddenly no longer in demand. Those that have a broad range of skills have no problem, those that don't, well...

[darmstadt]

Sounds like a load of spazzy nonesense to me. I'll stick to knowing nothing, dragging and dropping the odd thing in BizTalk and billing £10K a month. Kerrrr ching!

I'll stick with my MVS stuff and bill 15k a month and expenses, kerrr....fecking....ching!

[DimPrawn]

I'll stick with my MVS stuff and bill 15k a month and expenses, kerrr....fecking....ching!

I meant £10K per week.

KERRRRRRRR ****KKKKKINNNNGGGGGGGG CHHHHHHHHINNNNGGGGGG!!!!!