DOOM: "Omicron Covid cases ‘doubling every two to three days’ in UK"

[mattster]

Any more questions, son?

No, I am giving up.

[AtW]

Well yes, it's obviously different or else it wouldn't be novel, but it is still a strain of flu!

"Flu" just like "Coronavirus" are classes of viruses.

SARS-CoV-2 is a coronavirus, but it's not a strain of MERS which also is (or was) coronavirus.

Any more questions, son?

[mattster]

Well yes, it's obviously different or else it wouldn't be novel, but it is still a strain of flu!

[AtW]

Well the CDC and >38m search results suggest otherwise.

It's novel because -

"A novel influenza A virus is an influenza A virus that has infected humans and is antigenically and genetically distinct from seasonal influenza A viruses circulating among humans"

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...274-6/fulltext

NEXT!

[mattster]

Strains of existing viruses by definition are not novel (new) viruses.

Well the CDC and >38m search results suggest otherwise.

A novel influenza A virus is one that has caused human infection, but is different from current seasonal human influenza A viruses that circulate among people. Novel influenza A viruses are usually influenza A viruses that circulate among animals.

[AtW]

sufficiently different flu strains can also be classed as novel.

Strains of existing viruses by definition are not novel (new) viruses.

It is not an entirely new class of viruses, but no one is suggesting that. What are you even talking about?

A novel virus does not have to be in an entirely new class.

HTH

[mattster]

Certainly in the UK they are counting people who die with a positive Covid test as being killed by Covid. Reality is rather different and many of the "Covid" deaths are down to other chronic causes, not least of which obesity and/or old age and the concomitant reduced immune responses, not helped by having a serious lung infection of course.

You're right of course, people aren't dying of Covid, they're simply having their deaths brought forward.
And vaccines don't save lives, they just postpone your inevitable death.

[mattster]

Well no, it's not, it's a lot more complicated but I'm not going to try to argue why. It's not a novel virus either, it's just another strain of Coronavirus (hence "19").

Of course it is a novel virus, by every definition of that term, just as sufficiently different flu strains can also be classed as novel. It is not an entirely new class of viruses, but no one is suggesting that. What are you even talking about?

[BR14]

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! The SKY is Falling!

Ivan akkerov says so, it Must be true

[AtW]

It's not a novel virus either, it's just another strain of Coronavirus (hence "19").

It's yet another strain with major changes in a novel coronavirus that was only out for 2 years and that humanity still does not understand anywhere well enough.