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The Official DOOM: Buckle up!

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    #21
    Originally posted by AtW View Post

    They (and every terrorist out there) might just do that because a virus with fairly low lethality did more damage to the West than 1000 Bin Ladens, where as China kept population safe with decisive measures even without vaccine.

    It's certainly the best way for alien invaders to exterminate human kind too, at least outside of China.
    If COVID is the best way to exterminate mankind that is like saying best way to kill a grizzly bear is to shoot it with a water pistol.

    Since the beginning of the pandemic to today 3.93Million people have died from covid. Population of the world 7,874,965,825





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      #22
      Originally posted by mallisarealperson View Post
      If COVID is the best way to exterminate mankind that is like saying best way to kill a grizzly bear is to shoot it with a water pistol.

      Since the beginning of the pandemic to today 3.93Million people have died from covid. Population of the world 7,874,965,825
      It's a test, stupid.

      Or ought to be viewed as such.

      What if COVID was more like HIV, but airborne? Before you'd know everybody in the world would get it.

      And what if it had MERS fatality ratio of 40%? With very high transmissibility.

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        #23
        New stat I saw today.

        1 in 1000 patients die from covid now compared to 1 in 90 at the peak.

        Mutations will occur regardless of what we do, they will happen more frequently in less vaccinated areas who are not practising social distancing . As Australia shows social distancing and lockdowns do work but the virus finds a way.

        Once we have the majority vaccinated we need to agree that this is how it will be from now on and be glad its not the bubonic plague.

        If its a test it does seem to be a very risky global test.

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          #24
          Originally posted by vetran View Post
          New stat I saw today.

          1 in 1000 patients die from covid now compared to 1 in 90 at the peak.

          Mutations will occur regardless of what we do, they will happen more frequently in less vaccinated areas who are not practising social distancing . As Australia shows social distancing and lockdowns do work but the virus finds a way.

          Once we have the majority vaccinated we need to agree that this is how it will be from now on and be glad its not the bubonic plague.
          We know the effective treatment for the bubonic plague plus the death rate with and without treatment.

          This is a novel virus so we don't know the death rate with vaccination and haven't got completely effective treatments.




          "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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            #25
            Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

            We know the effective treatment for the bubonic plague plus the death rate with and without treatment.

            This is a novel virus so we don't know the death rate with vaccination and haven't got completely effective treatments.

            https://www.cdc.gov/plague/faq/index.html

            In the pre-antibiotic era (1900 through 1941), mortality among those infected with plague in the United States was 66%. Antibiotics greatly reduced mortality, and by 1990-2010 overall mortality had decreased to 11%. Plague can still be fatal despite effective antibiotics, though it is lower for bubonic plague cases than for septicemic or pneumonic plague cases. It is hard to assess the mortality rate of plague in developing countries, as relatively few cases are reliably diagnosed and reported to health authorities. WHO cites mortality rates of 8–10%, however some studies (WHO, 2004) suggest that mortality may be much higher in some plague endemic areas.
            so plague mortality is currently 11% with treatment.

            As above the Covid-19 worse mortality rate with treatment was 0.9% before vaccination and new treatments, now its allegedly 0.1%. The chances of being hospitalised or dying are massively reduced if you are vaccinated.

            Infection rate is much higher with covid-19. If plague became airborne we would be in real trouble.

            Flu is 0.7% with treatment
            https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html


            So maybe the scales are tipping?

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              #26
              Mortality of flu is not 0.7% (for all age groups)

              From Cdc link -

              35,520,883 - symptomatic infections
              34,157 - deaths

              Mortality - 0.096% or 0.1%

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                #27
                Covid will find a way to develop a mutation to bypass vaccination protection.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Andy2 View Post
                  Covid will find a way to develop a mutation to bypass vaccination protection.
                  And we thought we were doom mongers....
                  "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post

                    Flu is 0.7% with treatment
                    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html


                    So maybe the scales are tipping?
                    Covid isn't flu.

                    If you don't want people to see you as a conspiracy theorist use other viruses for comparison e.g. the plague, measles.
                    Last edited by SueEllen; 29 June 2021, 14:20.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #30
                      80% of these new cases are under 44.

                      In Scotland 45-50 just got their second jag last week.

                      Time to crack open another chilled bottle of Buckfast.

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