2nd Wave - where are all the deaths then?

[psychocandy]

1)Deaths lag infections by several weeks
2)2nd wave is what we're trying to avoid with current measures

Saying we don't need lockdown because we aren't getting lots of deaths is like saying we shouldn't bother with anti-rabies border precautions because nobody gets rabies in the UK.

Taking precautions at the border does not cause people to miss out on cancer treatment or top themselves.....

[d000hg]

I don't know anyone whos died from Covid apart from fella in offices mother who was 85 and in advanced stage dementia anyway.

And this is the crux of people swarming outside pubs, etc. Not educated enough to understand things.

[d000hg]

Taking precautions at the border does not cause people to miss out on cancer treatment or top themselves.....

Treatments were stopped because hospitals were overrun with people who were genuinely dying of Covid. People I know are having operations and treatments again now.

[Old Greg]

I'm not saying its not been a real tough time and so sad that many people have died....

I just think we as a country are neglecting everything else now. I don't know anyone whos died from Covid apart from fella in offices mother who was 85 and in advanced stage dementia anyway.
I did hear about someone I was in school with who lost his job recently, topped himself. And I know someone who recently died of cancer - no treatments available.

Of course, I'd be gutted if a family member had it. Everyones got a different perspective. You can imagine what the familes of the two mentioned above are.

If the country was neglecting everything else, schools would be closed.
Schools are not closed.
Therefore you are talking bollocks.

HTH

[oracleslave]

Taking precautions at the border does not cause people to miss out on cancer treatment or top themselves.....

Just when you think pooperscooter has Village Idiot of the year all sewn up, PS makes a desperate bid to snatch victory.

[jayn200]

I'm not saying its not been a real tough time and so sad that many people have died....

I just think we as a country are neglecting everything else now. I don't know anyone whos died from Covid apart from fella in offices mother who was 85 and in advanced stage dementia anyway.
I did hear about someone I was in school with who lost his job recently, topped himself. And I know someone who recently died of cancer - no treatments available.

Of course, I'd be gutted if a family member had it. Everyones got a different perspective. You can imagine what the familes of the two mentioned above are.

Yeah I think they really mishandled this from a medical and health perspective more than economic.

Its quite crazy.. people literally dying from cancer and other serious medical conditions being told they can't have life saving surgery and treatments (this has mostly but not entirely resumed). Even still there is almost no nhs screening right now. Almost every nhs gp is doing 100% remote appointments. Thankfully you have the option of going private in this country but I feel really sorry for the poor people who can't afford it.

[BR14]

like i said, - Twat!
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[Old Greg]

Just when you think pooperscooter has Village Idiot of the year all sewn up, PS makes a desperate bid to snatch victory.

The really stupid think about Covidiots like PS is that there argument boils down to:

There aren't many deaths so they should stop doing the things that are stopping there being many deaths

[d000hg]

Also, deaths ARE starting to pick up. 70 per day the last couple of days

[SimonMac]

I call bulltulip.....

2nd wave was what the media, government and public wanted. Its all a load of bollacks now.
More people dying of other things caused by "covid paranoia" now.

Time to end lockdown....;

6000 cases today is not the same as 6000 cases in March as we are testing 250,000 a day rather then 16,000

A better metric is hospital admissions which at the moment are holding steady but will rise as the tail catches up with the head!