Developer, data science jobs: US tech is taking a worse hit than other sectors

[jayn200]

Not all companies are in survival mode, some are doing very nicely at the moment.

I'm not sure if Data Scientist is still the 'sexiest job of the 21st century' but long term, I reckon the employment prospects for data scientists and IT management are probably a lot better than IT Operations and Help Desk or even software development.

Of course not all firms are in survival mode, that's why those jobs are down 45% or whatever it was and not 100%.

Maybe? Maybe not. I don't know. I personally believe data science is a transitional movement. I don't think it will last long. I could write a lot about it but probably not the thread for it.

It's easy for lots of companies to roll IT Management up into Finance or Operations or just let a tech lead or Project Manager to take on those responsibilities while the firm is suffering.

[darmstadt]

Not all companies are in survival mode, some are doing very nicely at the moment.

I'm not sure if Data Scientist is still the 'sexiest job of the 21st century' but long term, I reckon the employment prospects for data scientists and IT management are probably a lot better than IT Operations and Help Desk or even software development.

So who is going to write the software for the data scientists to use? Who are the data scientists going to call when their e-mail client doesn't work?

[Old Greg]

So who is going to write the software for the data scientists to use? Who are the data scientists going to call when their e-mail client doesn't work?

Suity.

[Paddy]

So who is going to write the software for the data scientists to use? Who are the data scientists going to call when their e-mail client doesn't work?

Reminds me of some years ago when I reported a bug at client co. Following procedures, I sent a bug-report to the USA HQ who confirmed it. The bug-report was then forwarded to the India Dev Team. Three weeks later, the India Dev Team sent me an email and asked me how do we fix it.

[vetran]

Throw Thorin at Chatbot

hmm this?

Thorin BV - Home

possibly a bit ambitious right now. It will be done at some level of course.

UPS for instance launched a chatbot as ~80% of their customer service enquiries were WISMO much like other service & supply companies. Guess what their agents are free to do other things with the 50% of their time they did WISMO queries.

Checking your account balance via interactive agents both voice & online is perfectly normal yet if you want your drug money laundered the Bank still does that via a human.

[vetran]

So who is going to write the software for the data scientists to use? Who are the data scientists going to call when their e-mail client doesn't work?

Hadoop & R etc are already out there. The cloud stuff is catching up.

Everyone is going to Office 365/Google. The Infrastructure turkeys (or their bosses) are voting for XMAS.

[Old Greg]

hmm this?

Thorin BV - Home

possibly a bit ambitious right now. It will be done at some level of course.

UPS for instance launched a chatbot as ~80% of their customer service enquiries were WISMO much like other service & supply companies. Guess what their agents are free to do other things with the 50% of their time they did WISMO queries.

Checking your account balance via interactive agents both voice & online is perfectly normal yet if you want your drug money laundered the Bank still does that via a human.

[vetran]

So basically a chatbot adventure? You been sniffing Barmy's cocoa again?

[Old Greg]

So basically a chatbot adventure? You been sniffing Barmy's cocoa again?

You cannot sniff Barmy's cheap brown cocoa.

[Andy2]

most of the infrastructure jobs will be gone due to cloud computing in the next 2-3 years
say goodbye to dba, storage admin, unix admin , network admin jobs