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Katie Hopkins permanently suspended from Twitter

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    #51
    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Then do something about it, rather than whining.
    Where did I whine? You sound triggered.

    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Google is blocked in China
    Are you sure? Dragonfly (search engine) - Wikipedia

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      #52
      Originally posted by rogerfederer View Post
      Interesting.

      Your sig linked blog seems to suggest that you actually think otherwise:
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      "What is the biggest driver of far right terrorism? The liberal dream world.

      All the usual stuff is being trotted out about the recent massacre in El Paso, saying Trump invited it.

      The Liberals love to bang on about right wing terrorism and never consider the causes. Most of the wars and conflicts throughout history have not been about colour or race, but have been between groups who live close together but have different, and often conflicting, cultures and do not socially interact. It is inevitable and, frankly, understandable, that people feel resentment against migrant groups who want to lead their society in a different direction, who have cultural practices they regard as wrong, who put the interests of their own people first, who fail to integrate and change the nature of a community or cause unnacceptable pressures on resources such as employment opportunities or low cost housing. Would some of these posh liberals feel the same way if they had the same experiences as ordinary people who live in high migrant areas?

      It is human nature that people will feel resentment against others who they feel are having an adverse impact on their lives and with whom they have little or no connection. Unfortunately, it is also human nature that hatred and resentment can grow irrationally in some to embrace those who are not the problem. We see it in the Labour party where opposition to Israel drives anti-semitism, in the UK where law abiding Muslims suffer a spike of abuse after Islamic terrorist incidents, and we have seen it in this incident in El Paso where the largely Hispanic population dates back to the time when it was a part of Mexico and has little to do with recent migration.

      Terrible yes, but you won't change human nature by trotting out liberal mantras, far better to work with it. Effective migration controls, allowing in moderate numbers of people who make a major contribution to society, abide by our laws, embrace our main cultural values and are willing and able to integrate would be the best possible solution to racism. It wouldn't matter a damn what race they were. Irrational attacks like the one in El Paso would be much less likely to happen.

      The reality is that if we had had Trump and Enoch types in power over the last several decades, right wing terrorism would scarcely exist."
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      So, according to you, the centre and left wing - both asking for equality, equity and raising other issues - are fuelling the rise of far right wing terrorism?

      What if we swap the word "left" with "right" and "right" with "left"? If far left terrorist acts were said to be caused by the far right wing requesting too much pro-white supremacy would that mean the right should tone down a bit? There is NO excuse for terrorist acts and suggesting people tone down language or requests, rather than using intelligent discussion to talk about them, is a ridiculous comment and response to a highly complex issue.

      Ironically, very few modern intelligent people think the centre-left and centrist political ground - promoting equality and equity - is a bad place to be. Promoting a white supremacist mantra is considered bad form and is racist.

      Also: what is the word 'Liberal'? It was originally linked to a liberal mindset, Libertarianism, the Republican USA free market dream. Amazingly now English speaking people, such as yourself, have tried to re-use this word to mean COMPLETELY the opposite. Don't you find it strange that you have tried to rebrand this word to mean 'left wing' or 'far left'? In terms of definition it's actually a description of right wing liberalisation of markets; modern freedom of choices for individuals - in fact it's the very basis of the Republican Grand Old Party.

      Your blog is quite concerning, because it is as if you don't even see that your own complaints about these "liberals" (whatever that even means) and "the other side" discussion points apply to your own side.

      Suggesting people shouldn't campaign for the main headline centre-left and centre policies because it makes far right people resort to violence, bombing, far right terrorism, has to be the most moronic thing I have yet read.

      Please reconsider. The less division we have in society, the better, and that includes better equity and equal treatment for all people regardless of the colour of their skin.


      Has anybody honestly read this?

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        #53
        Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
        Where did I whine? You sound triggered.



        Are you sure? Dragonfly (search engine) - Wikipedia
        Google is blocked in China - their attempts to appease Chinese Govt failed since China is smart enough to prevent long term damage from dependency on critical services supplied by foreign Govts - they just encouraged local search and helped it in every way - including blocking Google

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          #54
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          Google is blocked in China - their attempts to appease Chinese Govt failed since China is smart enough to prevent long term damage from dependency on critical services supplied by foreign Govts - they just encouraged local search and helped it in every way - including blocking Google
          This is exactly my point - a gatekeeper to the internet attempted to appease China; China's protectionist stance is beside the point.

          Google continues to do locality based censoring - but it's OK (until it's something you believe in, which is the point I'm making).

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            #55
            Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
            This is exactly my point - a gatekeeper to the internet attempted to appease China; China's protectionist stance is beside the point.

            Google continues to do locality based censoring - but it's OK (until it's something you believe in, which is the point I'm making).
            Big business always does it

            Google/Facebook going to get major anti-trust action - they managed to piss off both Republicans and Democrats, tho I expect Republicans will sell out

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              #56
              Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
              Where did I whine? You sound triggered.



              Are you sure? Dragonfly (search engine) - Wikipedia
              You're projecting now.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                You're projecting now.
                Deflection, I like it! Still waiting for you point out where I whined

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
                  This is exactly my point - a gatekeeper to the internet attempted to appease China; China's protectionist stance is beside the point.

                  Google continues to do locality based censoring - but it's OK (until it's something you believe in, which is the point I'm making).
                  Google doesn't own Twitter or Facebook, and they didn't take down any posts from Katie Hopkins.

                  This is like calling out someone who is hypocrite because someone else said the opposite. That's not how hypocrisy works.
                  I'm alright Jack

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                    Google doesn't own Twitter or Facebook, and they didn't take down any posts from Katie Hopkins.
                    OK, I'm not sure what your point is? Is your argument that Twitter and FB aren't gatekeepers of the internet in the sense they have strangleholds on their market?

                    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                    This is like calling out someone who is hypocrite because someone else said the opposite. That's not how hypocrisy works.
                    Honestly, I don't follow.

                    My argument is somewhat analogous to this: First they came ... - Wikipedia...

                    It worries me individuals use the argument "Twitter is a private entity and can suppress whatever speech it deems fit".

                    In practice the internet is a very small cabal with disproportionate control.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
                      OK, I'm not sure what your point is? Is your argument that Twitter and FB aren't gatekeepers of the internet in the sense they have strangleholds on their market?



                      Honestly, I don't follow.

                      My argument is somewhat analogous to this: First they came ... - Wikipedia...

                      It worries me individuals use the argument "Twitter is a private entity and can suppress whatever speech it deems fit".

                      In practice the internet is a very small cabal with disproportionate control.
                      She committed an offence. If she has a different opinion on that she can take them to court, or do you think calling someone a baboon is acceptable, given who they are?
                      I'm alright Jack

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