Should the state let Michael Buerk die to save the NHS money?

[Mordac]

If you want to reduce climate change, eat someone. Start with the over 70s, who are a drain on resources. Then move to the over 60s. Then financial managers including HMRC. And anyone who has had (or wants) more than 2 children. And of course, cyclists.

Great, if you don't mind chewing on bone - arthritic bone at that...

[Mordac]

Quite a few round my part of North Wales. And the child benefit seems to get spent on cigarettes....

So the govt gets 90% of the money back. I'm sure that's by accident, rather than design though...

[BrilloPad]

So the govt gets 90% of the money back. I'm sure that's by accident, rather than design though...

Tobacco use should be encouraged. It kills people off. And growing plants helps reduce CO2.

[Mordac]

Tobacco use should be encouraged. It kills people off. And growing plants helps reduce CO2.

Yes but when I use it, I have to set fire to it. Perhaps we should go back to snuff. We could put the "Minister for the 18th Century" in charge of that policy.

[Zigenare]

Tobacco use should be encouraged. It kills people off. And growing plants helps reduce CO2.

Upper Thoracic Cancer isn't a pleasant way to shuffle off.

[Lance]

AGW is here. We can either live more environmentally friendly(get real!) or reduce the population. Probably both are needed.

So to reduce population. We can't kill people off. We could make sure people can only have one child - but that is not easy right now.

So a start is to remove fertility treatment. However much much more will be needed.

just think about that for a second.
Have you any idea what problems an ageing population causes? How many people of working age are required just to wipe the arses of those who can't do it themselves? Robots may provide an answer, but they're not ready yet.

The sooner the world plans for 11 billion people, sustainably, the sooner we'll reach sustainability.

[Lance]

Tobacco use should be encouraged. It kills people off. And growing plants helps reduce CO2.

and here we agree.
Solves the pension crisis as well.

Anyone stupid enough to smoke can live (die) by their own consequences.

[OwlHoot]

Let fat people die to save NHS money, says Michael Buerk | News | The Times

I suppose if climate change is going to averted anyone with a BMI over a certain amount needs to be deprecated. And that is the end of rugby players.....

Hang on though - Surely fatties are sequestering carbon in their blubber, and it is skinny people, burning off all their excess fat and producing CO2, that are causing the most damage to the atmosphere!

[OwlHoot]

But why should the state do it's best to keep you alive when you clearly have not taken that much interest in it...

I think I'm right in saying you can't actually opt to go entirely private and avoid involvement with the NHS entirely for treatment in the UK. A private doctor has to have some interaction with your NHS GP, although I'm unsure of the details.

But if that is the case, and the NHS takes it upon itself to force people to use its services one way or another in practice, then they have no right to criticise anyone's lifestyle choices or be selective about treatment.

[Zigenare]

and here we agree.
Solves the pension crisis as well.

Anyone stupid enough to smoke can live (die) by their own consequences.

How much do you think their healthcare is going to cost?