Everything I hate about irresponsible journalism.

[NotAllThere]

All suposition, but you would think if they refused to get on the trains and the guards started shooting them in the station, someone somewhere would have got the news out?

Totalitarian state, no free media, a whipped up mindset against the Enemies of the People and a lack of willingness to believe it could be that bad.

And how many unarmed people are going to go up against soldiers with guns - when they're constantly being reassured they're just being relocated?

But there were rebellions - e.g. the uprising at Sobibór, when people realised they had nothing to lose.

[Zigenare]

Totalitarian state, no free media, a whipped up mindset against the Enemies of the People and a lack of willingness to believe it could be that bad.

And how many unarmed people are going to go up against soldiers with guns - when they're constantly being reassured they're just being relocated?

But there were rebellions - e.g. the uprising at Sobibór, when people realised they had nothing to lose.

There was a suspicion that something was happening. For example contact was lost with Freemasons who lived in the Nazi occupied countries. To the extent that Freemasonry went underground in the UK during the war years and didn't really leap back to its pre-war status after the war.

Although Jews were slaughtered in large numbers, they weren't the only group to be persecuted.

[NotAllThere]

Although Jews were slaughtered in large numbers, they weren't the only group to be persecuted.

About 40%.



Source.

[LondonManc]

Not sure all holocaust deniers are necessarily neo-Nazis. Some seize on any daft conspiracy theory going.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wasn't a neo-Nazi. Egypt, Qatar and Saudi Arabia have also all promoted holocaust denial.

Let's not forget the Hamas Covenant too.

As for Europe, both far left and far right factions in France have both promoted it; there have been Belgian deniers on the far right (Flemish Bloc) and there was even an article in a Japanese publication which accused the Poles of faking it!

[Zigenare]

About 40%.



Source.

Indeed, so that's 60% non-Jewish victims, surprising that their representatives aren't quite as vocal - a forget-me-not here, a pink triangle there.

[Eirikur]

Indeed, so that's 60% non-Jewish victims, surprising that their representatives aren't quite as vocal - a forget-me-not here, a pink triangle there.

The others are as vocal as well, but just not noticed so much in the west. Just visit any former Soviet Union country during or around the 8th of May and you will see

[NotAllThere]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wasn't a neo-Nazi. Egypt, Qatar and Saudi Arabia have also all promoted holocaust denial.

Let's not forget the Hamas Covenant too.

They're also fans of the blood libel.

[LondonManc]

Indeed, so that's 60% non-Jewish victims, surprising that their representatives aren't quite as vocal - a forget-me-not here, a pink triangle there.

Of that 60% you've got politicals (whatever that may entail, hopefully politicians but no doubt German dissidents, so that's an in-house issue)
The Soviets (including Belarussian and Ukrainians) gave as good as they got to the Germans, so they won't complain - the Germans fled west in 1945 to surrender to the Brits/Yanks. Besides, they had Stalin slaughtering their own, so were hardly in a position to throw a snide j'accuse at the Germans.

[minestrone]

The probability of getting killed if you were a Jew under the Nazis must have been 99%. Very few from Poland survived.

They kept some to do some work, missed some and some managed to hide in a basement for a few years but they got just about all.

IBM punch cards for you.

[Old Greg]

The probability of getting killed if you were a Jew under the Nazis must have been 99%. Very few from Poland survived.

They kept some to do some work, missed some and some managed to hide in a basement for a few years but they got just about all.

IBM punch cards for you.

EU attempts to create EU wide disease registries (national registries currently exist e.g. there is a UK renal registry) get frustrated by Germany, where registries were apparently used to round up people with disabilities during Nazi rule.