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    #41
    Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
    When I got lessons, back in the early 70's (so obviously pre internet) my teacher constantly tried to teach Eb chords using an open D slid up a fret and barred. When you're 7 years old and playing a classical guitar with the action of a cheese grater, that's nigh on impossible. Years later, I kinda 'discovered' CAGED without knowing it had a name, and it filled in a lot of holes.
    But there's really only 3 major shapes - C, E & G, that's the failing of CAGED.
    C barred on 2 is D
    G barred on 2 is A

    But D & A are a lot easier to play than a barred C or G.
    As for G barred, no I'd never do it fully, but sometimes if you play an A6 shape (i.e. the four strings in a row), then finger up one on the high E takes you to A7 and finger up 2 further takes you to A(8), which is A but using a high note from the G shape.
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #42
      Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
      Don't know the joke but this is how I started back in the 70's:

      Is the fact that the crosses are in the wrong places deliberate ??
      When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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        #43
        Originally posted by WTFH View Post
        But there's really only 3 major shapes - C, E & G, that's the failing of CAGED.
        C barred on 2 is D
        G barred on 2 is A

        But D & A are a lot easier to play than a barred C or G.
        As for G barred, no I'd never do it fully, but sometimes if you play an A6 shape (i.e. the four strings in a row), then finger up one on the high E takes you to A7 and finger up 2 further takes you to A(8), which is A but using a high note from the G shape.
        For chords that it. For (non-pentatonic) soloing the CAGED system comes in quite handy for knowing where you are and where you can go - as long as you don't get stuck into 'boxes'.
        "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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          #44
          Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
          Don't know the joke but this is how I started back in the 70's:

          Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
          Is the fact that the crosses are in the wrong places deliberate ??
          If G is the third, then the tune is in Em
          …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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            #45
            Originally posted by WTFH View Post
            But there's really only 3 major shapes - C, E & G, that's the failing of CAGED.
            C barred on 2 is D
            G barred on 2 is A

            But D & A are a lot easier to play than a barred C or G.
            As for G barred, no I'd never do it fully, but sometimes if you play an A6 shape (i.e. the four strings in a row), then finger up one on the high E takes you to A7 and finger up 2 further takes you to A(8), which is A but using a high note from the G shape.
            Eh ??

            So are you saying your first choice position (or even second choice) for a D would be a C shape barred at the 2nd fret ?
            When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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              #46
              Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
              Eh ??

              So are you saying your first choice position (or even second choice) for a D would be a C shape barred at the 2nd fret ?
              A shape on the 5th Shirley? For a meaty power chord that is...
              "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                #47
                Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
                Eh ??

                So are you saying your first choice position (or even second choice) for a D would be a C shape barred at the 2nd fret ?
                No, not the choice position, but the shape.

                On a guitar the chord shapes follow logical patterns. The logic behind a D is that it is actually a C shape barred at the 2nd fret. The easier way to play it is to mute the E & A strings and play the other 4.
                Understanding the logic & theory makes transposing and riffing easier. e.g. a beginners solo like Hotel California is based around the chord shapes, just knowing where on the fretboard to play them.

                And transposing is very useful if your ban has saxes and keys in it

                But to go back to your comment about a barred C, if you need to go from Eb to C#m, for example, then barring could be the best option.
                …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                  No, not the choice position, but the shape.

                  On a guitar the chord shapes follow logical patterns. The logic behind a D is that it is actually a C shape barred at the 2nd fret. The easier way to play it is to mute the E & A strings and play the other 4.
                  Understanding the logic & theory makes transposing and riffing easier. e.g. a beginners solo like Hotel California is based around the chord shapes, just knowing where on the fretboard to play them.

                  And transposing is very useful if your ban has saxes and keys in it

                  But to go back to your comment about a barred C, if you need to go from Eb to C#m, for example, then barring could be the best option.
                  Sliding it up from the C with the rest of the strings open makes for a good 'Little Wing' as well.
                  "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
                    A shape on the 5th Shirley? For a meaty power chord that is...
                    If course it should be on the 5th
                    When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
                      If course it should be on the 5th
                      The barred finger obviously
                      "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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