Alfie Evans....

[CoolCat]

No PC is upset about the failures of the NHS and social care around his family members care.

Most people happy with the NHS and sing it praises have had good emergency, critical and/or paediatric care.

Dont think thats true, most people are biased by the never ending pro NHS propaganda we are fed in this country. If you go sit in some NHS waiting rooms and listen to peoples true feelings about the crap care they get, or listen to anyone who has had care abroad recently and is able to compare and contrast to NHS equivalents... you will get a different story.

[vwdan]

There was a German professor of medicine on the Radio 4 today programme yesterday morning, go and listen to his answers on the BBC web site. It gives all the answers I would want to give.

No no, that's not how this worked. You made a somewhat extraordinary claim - and seem to have lots of answers. Either come out with them, admit you were wrong or **** off.

[CoolCat]

No no, that's not how this worked. You made a somewhat extraordinary claim - and seem to have lots of answers. Either come out with them, admit you were wrong or **** off.

you dont make the rules in this life.

I dont have to educate you.

I am *allowed* to be anti NHS because it has actively killed several of my nearest and dearest, and I have seen much better health systems when working abroad.

[vwdan]

you dont make the rules in this life.

I dont have to educate you.

I am *allowed* to be anti NHS because it has actively killed several of my nearest and dearest, and I have seen much better health systems when working abroad.

So, you're just full of crap with an agenda. I'm shocked.

[CoolCat]

So, you're just full of crap with an agenda. I'm shocked.

aw poor didums, somebody not falling for your typical leftist style of non debate

[vwdan]

aw poor didums, somebody not falling for your typical leftist style of non debate

You provided NO evidence, just wild and ridiculous claims that aren't rooted in reality. You're a fool, but I'm glad you've at least been forced to admit it.

[CoolCat]

You provided NO evidence, just wild and ridiculous claims that aren't rooted in reality. You're a fool, but I'm glad you've at least been forced to admit it.

On the contrary I pointed you at the exact evidence. I just declined to be the one who transcribed it for you.

[vwdan]

On the contrary I pointed you at the exact evidence. I just declined to be the one who transcribed it for you.

No you didn't, you've offered to waste my time to go and listen to something that almost certainly doesn't reflect your world view. This isn't "If you don't believe the Earth is round, go and read a science book", you're making a claim that is no way represented in ANY court document or by ANY expert related to the case. As such, it's on you to provide some context and some proof. But, of course, you have none because you're a subpar IQ

[CoolCat]

No you didn't, you've offered to waste my time to go and listen to something that almost certainly doesn't reflect your world view. This isn't "If you don't believe the Earth is round, go and read a science book", you're making a claim that is no way represented in ANY court document or by ANY expert related to the case. As such, it's on you to provide some context and some proof. But, of course, you have none because you're a subpar IQ

Apart from the nonsense insults, there have been multiple experts, including the German professor of medicine who presented evidence in the court case, who have been in the media. You wanted expert views related to the case I pointed you at them.

I know for a fact most international medical opinion is on the side of that German professor of medicine and most definitely not the NHS.

If you dont want to listen to a professor of medicine who has examined the boy and explained how his case would be treated in any other developed country... then you are truly blinded by illogical attachment to the NHS.

[vwdan]

Apart from the nonsense insults, there have been multiple experts, including the German professor of medicine who presented evidence in the court case, who have been in the media. You wanted expert views related to the case I pointed you at them.

I know for a fact most international medical opinion is on the side of that German professor of medicine and most definitely not the NHS.

If you dont want to listen to a professor of medicine who has examined the boy and explained how his case would be treated in any other developed country... then you are truly blinded by illogical attachment to the NHS.

I've read the entire case judgement - I saw nothing about any treatment. But you're still harping on about something that doesn't exist.