No escaping the Russians

[minestrone]

I don't know what the fuss is about Saudi Arabia.

An Islamic insurgency with the tag line "Death to Israel, Death to America" has overthrown a democratic government in Yemen. The Saudis as neighbours are coming to the government's aid.

It's a horrific war but they have a legitimate reason to be involved.

[minestrone]

I bet the daughter brought the stuff from Russia with out her knowing. Like in a gift. Bottle of vodka or something. Adulterated in the airport after check in.

[OwlHoot]

I bet the daughter brought the stuff from Russia with out her knowing. Like in a gift. Bottle of vodka or something. Adulterated in the airport after check in.

Apparently Novichok nerve agents are binary. So someone, or some contraption such as a tiny screw device in a pepper grinder or similar, would have had to mix the two components (each pretty harmless in themselves).

[AtW]

Apparently Novichok nerve agents are binary. So someone, or some contraption such as a tiny screw device in a pepper grinder or similar, would have had to mix the two components (each pretty harmless in themselves).

Yeah, it's really easy to mix them (if you got them in the first place), the hard part is to stay alive after mixing.

[jamesbrown]

Another coincidence, surely? Probably tripped over a canister of some incredibly rare Russian nerve agent and fell down the stairs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ezovsky-found/

[Batcher]

Oh sorry we did it to ourselves or maybe it was the US as there are only apparently 4 countries who can produce this stuff.

U.S. and Uzbeks Agree on Chemical Arms Plant Cleanup - The New York Times

The United States and Uzbekistan have quietly negotiated and are expected to sign a bilateral agreement today to provide American aid in dismantling and decontaminating one of the former Soviet Union's largest chemical weapons testing facilities, according to Defense Department and Uzbek officials.

Earlier this year, the Pentagon informed Congress that it intends to spend up to $6 million under its Cooperative Threat Reduction program to demilitarize the so-called Chemical Research Institute, in Nukus, Uzbekistan. Soviet defectors and American officials say the Nukus plant was the major research and testing site for a new class of secret, highly lethal chemical weapons called ''Novichok,'' which in Russian means ''new guy.''

[Jog On]

Who needs Netflix...

[Batcher]

Craig Murray is an author, broadcaster and human rights activist. He was British Ambassador to Uzbekistan from August 2002 to October 2004 and Rector of the University of Dundee from 2007 to 2010.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...-to-judgement/

The “novochok” group of nerve agents – a very loose term simply for a collection of new nerve agents the Soviet Union were developing fifty years ago – will almost certainly have been analysed and reproduced by Porton Down. That is entirely what Porton Down is there for. It used to make chemical and biological weapons as weapons, and today it still does make them in small quantities in order to research defences and antidotes. After the fall of the Soviet Union Russian chemists made a lot of information available on these nerve agents. And one country which has always manufactured very similar persistent nerve agents is Israel. This Foreign Policy magazine (a very establishment US publication) article on Israel‘s chemical and biological weapon capability is very interesting indeed.

[minestrone]

Craig Murray is an author, broadcaster and human rights activist. He was British Ambassador to Uzbekistan from August 2002 to October 2004 and Rector of the University of Dundee from 2007 to 2010.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...-to-judgement/

The “novochok” group of nerve agents – a very loose term simply for a collection of new nerve agents the Soviet Union were developing fifty years ago – will almost certainly have been analysed and reproduced by Porton Down. That is entirely what Porton Down is there for. It used to make chemical and biological weapons as weapons, and today it still does make them in small quantities in order to research defences and antidotes. After the fall of the Soviet Union Russian chemists made a lot of information available on these nerve agents. And one country which has always manufactured very similar persistent nerve agents is Israel. This Foreign Policy magazine (a very establishment US publication) article on Israel‘s chemical and biological weapon capability is very interesting indeed.

He was sacked from the foreign office for a long list of bulltulip interspersed with gross misconduct, drunkenness and other such stuff.

Unsurprisingly his bulltulip still goes down well with the lunatic fringe though.

[Batcher]

He was sacked from the foreign office for a long list of bulltulip interspersed with gross misconduct, drunkenness and other such stuff.

Unsurprisingly his bulltulip still goes down well with the lunatic fringe though.

Link?