No escaping the Russians

[OwlHoot]

I was thinking about this in the car last evening on the way home.

It was Putin alright, and he's had exactly the reaction he wanted from naive May, Johnson, & co, who on this occasion should have "gone away and shut up" until after the Russian election!

Yes, killing an ex-spy blatantly with a substance known to have been first developed in Russia could have been just to discourage any others from turning.

But why a spy who had been released and was a has been, and why also target his daughter, and why so close to the Russian presidential election?

I reckon it was to provoke a storm of criticism and countermeasures, which is exactly what he achieved, to make the Russian people feel beleagured and look to Putin as their staunch defender.

Yes, everyone assumes he'll win the election anyway, by fair means or foul.

But a bit more genuine support never hurts, especially if polls and advisors were telling him his win could not be guaranteed or might not be as decisive as he would like.

[tarbera]

I was thinking about this in the car last evening on the way home.

It was Putin alright, and he's had exactly the reaction he wanted from naive May, Johnson, & co, who on this occasion should have "gone away and shut up" until after the Russian election!

Yes, killing an ex-spy blatantly with a substance known to have been first developed in Russia could have been just to discourage any others from turning.

But why a spy who had been released and was a has been, and why also target his daughter, and why so close to the Russian presidential election?

I reckon it was to provoke a storm of criticism and countermeasures, which is exactly what he achieved, to make the Russian people feel beleagured and look to Putin as their staunch defender.

Yes, everyone assumes he'll win the election anyway, by fair means or foul.

But a bit more genuine support never hurts, especially if polls and advisors were telling him his win could not be guaranteed or might not be as decisive as he would like.

I bet you would believe £350milion on the side of a bus also

[SueEllen]

I was thinking about this in the car last evening on the way home.

It was Putin alright, and he's had exactly the reaction he wanted from naive May, Johnson, & co, who on this occasion should have "gone away and shut up" until after the Russian election!

Yes, killing an ex-spy blatantly with a substance known to have been first developed in Russia could have been just to discourage any others from turning.

But why a spy who had been released and was a has been, and why also target his daughter, and why so close to the Russian presidential election?

I reckon it was to provoke a storm of criticism and countermeasures, which is exactly what he achieved, to make the Russian people feel beleagured and look to Putin as their staunch defender.

Yes, everyone assumes he'll win the election anyway, by fair means or foul.

But a bit more genuine support never hurts, especially if polls and advisors were telling him his win could not be guaranteed or might not be as decisive as he would like.

No need you just kick out poll observers and stuff ballot boxes - https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rs-before-vote

[shaunbhoy]

Oh good another one of your sockies coming to play...

I neither have nor need sockies.

Probably just another poster that is tired of your endless bitching and whining.

It is the likes of you, and your selective hair-trigger sensibilities, that have done so much to turn what was once a vibrant combative arena into a stagnant, sterile, humourless safe-place.

Why not fook off and do us all a favour and spend your time in some liberal PC virtue-signalling oasis that is better suited to the kind of dreary tosh you seem happiest peddling?

You are the most boring poster on here by a country mile, and bearing in mind the level of competition you face that is quite an accolade!

Quit while you are ahead and do the rest of us a favour, that way CUK might be salvaged.

[AtW]

IIRC, despite the fact that AtW consistently bleats on about being allowed access to guns, on the one occasion he was afforded the opportunity to do just that, he bailed out of his Motherland before you could say "Beam me up Comrade Scotty!"

When and where was it?

And what was I supposed to do with those supposed guns that I was supposedly afforded the opportunity to have? Spell it out.

On top of that, he has not stopped badmouthing his homeland ever since.

So you would have expected Jews who got out from the Third Reich to praise Herr Hitler, not just in 1930s but continue doing so in 1940s? This is a very strange expectation to say the least.

It's bonkers that now in 2018 people like you still defend somebody like Putin, you were well behind the curve on this one and even after nerve agent attack on British soil you are still defending Putin and attacking somebody like me.

[shaunbhoy]

When and where was it?

And what was I supposed to do with those supposed guns that I was supposedly afforded the opportunity to have? Spell it out.

Were you or were you not supposed to do National service in Russia and did you or did you not bail out of there before you completed this?

Spell it out!

So you would have expected Jews who got out from the Third Reich to praise Herr Hitler, not just in 1930s but continue doing so in 1940s? This is a very strange expectation to say the least.

Of course not, and that it is nowhere close to being a justified comparison.

It's bonkers that now in 2018 people like you still defend somebody like Putin, you were well behind the curve on this one and even after nerve agent attack on British soil you are still defending Putin and attacking somebody like me.

I have never defended Putin, stop trying to switch the focus.
We were discussing YOU and your ridiculous paranoia.

Try and stay on track with the discussion.

[AtW]

Were you or were you not supposed to do National service in Russia and did you or did you not bail out of there before you completed this?

I had exemption from the draft due to a medical condition (astma).

If it wasn't for this I'd be either dead in winter storm of Grozny of 1994 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle...94%E2%80%9395) ) or took part in genocide.

What's really interesting is that you supposedly served in the British Army, yet you defend murderous regime and attack somebody for not serving for them.

I can only wonder if this was 1940s and you'd be also denigrating a jew who escaped Nazi Germany for not having served there in an SS unit, whilst at the same time taking side of the Nazi Germany a week after first bombing raids on London.

I have never defended Putin, stop trying to switch the focus. We were discussing YOU and your ridiculous paranoia.

You are defending Putin and his brutal regime by attacking me - he used CHEMICAL NERVE AGENT ON BRITISH SOIL, and before that radioactive Polonium 210, and lots more "clean" murders that certainly were done by his agents, and yet you accuse me of "ridiculous paranoia" about the nature of Putins regime which to me was obvious well before it became trendy.

You are truly a piece of tulip who sides with Putin even after such crazy attack.

[AtW]

And by the way - you Brexiting pieces of tulip helped this chemical attack happen - Putin wanted to test waters and see how isolated Britain is, he is very happy at what he had achieved.

[stek]

Putin is no fool however he is a bastard. I don’t know any Russians with any intellect who like him. He gets his popularity from the homophobic racist masses, like Trump does.

Look at the long list of Putin critics who’ve mysteriously departed. He doesn’t have them despatched because they are real threats, he does it in a most public yet covert way to warn others not to even think about standing in his way.

He’s ex KGB, remember that, ruthless...

[BR14]

Oh good another one of your sockies coming to play...

What? - i'm nobody's puppet, not now, or ever

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