All about Scrum

[cojak]

I was hoping that some agile coaches on this board could kindly share their views on what they do practically

I know kanban and scrum and this thread is not meant to debate them

I am more interested in how c level training happens from a thirty year old with a degree in pottery from a polytechnic.

And in that scenario how working in banking and pharma meaning no particular deep knowledge is benefical

Not what was in the OP:

So a 30 year old guy who has done a crappy course from a polytechnic university in an unrelated field thinks he can provide coaching to C level executive board?!

Are these people for real?

That's a debate in my eyes...

[Lockhouse]

I was hoping that some agile coaches on this board could....

I am more interested in how c level training happens from a thirty year old with a degree in pottery from a polytechnic.

It doesn't. They are the same old unskilled box tickers in search of a pigeonhole.

I used to be an evangelist but now pragmatism rules for me and I try not to take it too seriously otherwise it does my head in. As a contractor it's not my job to change the culture, even as a coach, all I want to do is, if anyone's interested, is to impart how you're supposed to implement Scrum and then explain why at XYZ Bank it's not happening that way.

I've done the "it should be done this way...." to death and all I got was aggro and a stomach ulcer. 90% of the time, people do what they want and call it Kanban anyway.

[RasputinDude]

"scrum" is a software engineering religion.

It has its holy book, its priests, evangalists and rituals. If you deviate from scrum-by-the-book then you schism and start a new off-shoot explaining loudly why your version is right and everyone else is wrong.

I have worked with some truly, truly, awful agile coaches and scrum masters.

I have also worked with a vanishingly small number of excellent ones who have seriously helped to turn the software team around. But those ones tend to have come from a software engineering background and are pragmatic about finding real solutions rather than committed to a particular mindset.

[TheGreenBastard]

I was hoping that some agile coaches on this board could kindly share their views on what they do practically

I know kanban and scrum and this thread is not meant to debate them

I am more interested in how c level training happens from a thirty year old with a degree in pottery from a polytechnic.

And in that scenario how working in banking and pharma meaning no particular deep knowledge is benefical

Firstly you love agile and scrum... Wtf :-)

Secondly, aren't these positions to facilitate the team, why is deep knowledge required? It seems like inherit social skills and empathy would be more useful that deep sector knowledge, hence why pottery PhDs with the gift of the gab are invoicing £600 per day. They seem to have the intelligence to realise there's not really much to it (no offense) and the financial rewards are disproportionate to effort.

Personally Kanban is far superior than this pseudo science Agile™/Scrum - scrum masters in my eyes bring little value for a group of real experts working on a problem - if anything their stupid "gamification" of stuff is condescending tulipe.

[LondonPM1]

A lot of these scrum masters and agile coaches don't understand software but can talk about it very well. They also read all of the books under the sun and reference them and managers like that.

I was hoping that some agile coaches on this board could kindly share their views on what they do practically

I know kanban and scrum and this thread is not meant to debate them

I am more interested in how c level training happens from a thirty year old with a degree in pottery from a polytechnic.

And in that scenario how working in banking and pharma meaning no particular deep knowledge is benefical

[SunnyInHades]

'Scrum is soooo last year darling ..'.

"The following is a story about how we matured as an engineering team. We went from an ad-hoc process to Scrum, and used Scrum for a whole year. Scrum leveled us up as a team in terms of structure and process. But it caused major morale issues. Then we found Kanban. We implemented it and have never looked back."
https://medium.com/cto-school/ditchi...m-cd1167014a6f

Kanban is this ..


and this ..



and this ..



Simplees.

[portseven]

i call it 'make it up as you go along'

governance, whats that? JFDI!

[greenlake]

Agile is the new saviour. Non believers will burn in hell.

[VillageContractor]

A lot of these scrum masters and agile coaches don't understand software but can talk about it very well. They also read all of the books under the sun and reference them and managers like that.

[DimPrawn]

Agile is the new saviour. Non believers will burn in hell.

Companies now value this nonsense above any technical skills. If you want to follow the money take the Scrum master training and invoice whilst smiling like an all knowing all seeing Buddha

Personally I will be glad when this time-wasting wank is shown for the charlatan bulltulip it really is...