Place yer bets looks like a second referendum is coming

[worzelGummidge]

Point is largely moot, my opinion is that after all this, all EU states will implement freedom of movement to visitors only, with auto-work permits (like Switzerland do now) for the deemed skilled, and settlement rights in line with non-EU nationals.

It's already happening, CH above, NL and FR making it difficult without local language, there's just too many flocking to the latest what's-hot state for whatever scraps they can pick up, too much watering down of local culture, and too many citizenship pimps in it for cream...

One thing is for sure though, rates will have to shoot up in Dublin, there's no more places to live left......

I'm a Bremainer but it's wasted on thick people so they should stay where they were born!

Interesting opinion reference the Freedom of movement.

I can't see it myself because it is one of the sacred things of the EU, but......
I can see some some states having issues with it (Northern countries), so maybe a two tier system.
Don't know.

Dublin rates.. Yes I know.
EU rates always used to be less than the UK, but now, about the same.
It's the rates over time though, like the economy or GDP.
A small difference adds up.

What made me suddenly think is the IFS outlook until 2030 and then then this piece:
https://www.ft.com/content/dc402d22-...bb7f0#comments

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/8296

..."suddenly, by 2035, the Germans and French will not only be richer but look richer.."

It's the same logic as lowering fees on your private pension and yet making the same investments, or paying off your mortgage early.

Then the realisation that Google see Europe as Berlin and Frankfurt now and not London.

It's not nice and a real shame.

But just planning for that.

However, yes, your right about Dublin rents, however it's tech, hoover up the budget.

On another related theme, Germany has a plan for IoT and AI and is now using it.
The UK government is still planning their meetings to decide the plan.

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On the plus side, I know two referendum voters who have switched to remain.
So more of those needed ready for the next vote.

[stek]

I don't recall having to do any of that. Mind you, that was over ten years ago when you could get Irish citizenship without all that "residency" kerfuffle...

That would be an Irish grandparent or further back if entered in FBR....

[northernladyuk]

Technically it's possible but, you'll find that being British/Irish is normally considered mutually exclusive. As I've suggested before, try taking a straw poll in you local to see how many agree that you're both.

Just did. They agree it is fine to be both.

[stek]

Just did. They agree it is fine to be both.

Same here east of Connolly, plenty of Derry boys too, and they’re the former up the ra types...

[meridian]

That would be an Irish grandparent or further back if entered in FBR....

Marriage to a Paddy. If you were married before Nov 2002 they gave you citizenship wherever you were in the world. They shut that loophole in 2005, I think.

[northernladyuk]

Same here east of Connolly, plenty of Derry boys too, and they’re the former up the ra types...

Poor equalizer lives in a sectarian hell hole.

[The_Equalizer]

Poor equalizer lives in a sectarian hell hole.

Tis a shame, but you are correct. Still best warn your fellow country folk what their friends in the 'north' are like.

[The_Equalizer]

Same here east of Connolly, plenty of Derry boys too, and they’re the former up the ra types...

No such thing as former as you well know.

[stek]

No such thing as former as you well know.

Amiens Street?

[northernladyuk]

Tis a shame, but you are correct. Still best warn your fellow country folk what their friends in the 'north' are like.

They have a pretty good idea for the most part.