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Mobile phone for kids - do on own or part of a deal
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostSharing without permission is a criminal offence.Comment
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My child got a phone for starting secondary school - started off with a cheap phone on payg, then got an iPhone on a great offer when my child had shown to use responsibly.
Tariff is capped at monthly limits and linked to my account so I get all the notifications. And I regularly check the phone to make sure there is no misuse...______________________
Don't get mad...get even...Comment
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostSharing without permission is a criminal offence.
However, following the brutal rape of a someone I know and an ongoing police investigation for additional witness intimidation.
I can state from bad experience that this playground tulip is beyond the time and effort of the police. There is far too much of it and its far too prevalent for them to even make a go of prosecution.
Besides which the child sex offences act is there to protect children and parents from unwittingly letting their guard down amongst mentally ill offenders that may or may not be a predatory risk. The more false positives that end up on that list because of this the less use it is and the more our kids are in danger.
Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostAny sharing is a criminal offence for child pornography.
For this reason I am now in the preventing it is better than trying to cure the aftermath camp.
So what we are doing when we give a young child a phone is provide a massive tool of safety and potential damage right at the time when they are at their most vulnerable to risks and animal instincts... Now add peer pressure and the way our media barely clothes most of their female role models and here we are at the gates of hell.
This is worth a read I wish I had seen it earlier
Teenagers' brain development | Raising Children Network
I tried locking my kids phones down but frankly the applications that are out there are far too numerous and hard to classify to keep the problems out.
Its easier to keep the genie in the bottle at least for a few more years.Comment
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostIt's easier to educate than prevent.
Personally I'm amazed I survived this phase of development let alone my kids
When we taught our just walking toddlers to stay away from an open fire or hot cups of liquid and nasty dogs with foaming mouths, they instinctively understood. Had they had the same brain as a teenager, they would leap straight for the nearest Darwin Award because it was:
a) Warm
b) Will be fun
c) Coz you said NO!
Our trust sets them up to fail regardless of the warnings we give them or how good they have been so far.Comment
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Originally posted by bobspud View PostThe problem is the education message is fighting a teenage brain that is suddenly unballanced through lack of frontal lobe development. It's not that the kids do stupid things on purpose or even malice its that their monkey gets control just at the worst possible point. So while we are saying go to school and be good, the monkey is offering all sorts of new and interesting buzzes.
Personally I'm amazed I survived this phase of development let alone my kids
When we taught our just walking toddlers to stay away from an open fire or hot cups of liquid and nasty dogs with foaming mouths, they instinctively understood. Had they had the same brain as a teenager, they would leap straight for the nearest Darwin Award because it was:
a) Warm
b) Will be fun
c) Coz you said NO!
Our trust sets them up to fail regardless of the warnings we give them or how good they have been so far.Comment
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Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostMy 6 year old is already openly planning the things she will do when she is a teenager and we won't be able to stop her.
You have to laugh otherwiseComment
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Originally posted by bobspud View PostYep and those are the feelers that she is using to gauge your tolerances so that the day she decides to fire the first salvo you will already be beaten. My one spent the last years of her single figures telling us that she wanted her ears pierced. (yes dear when you are older thats fine we said. thinking we had won that little round..) Then suddenly she came home with a bolt through her tongue
You have to laugh otherwise
I used to think I should shield them from TV advertising because they lack the capacity to judge the veracity of claims. But then I decided that if they are going to grow up in a world of advertising, they need to learn somehow. And they are now very cynical about any advertised products (unless of course it is promoted by Barry Scott).Comment
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Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostIt is funny. The two of them are very different, and my own views have changed on these things as well.
I used to think I should shield them from TV advertising because they lack the capacity to judge the veracity of claims. But then I decided that if they are going to grow up in a world of advertising, they need to learn somehow. And they are now very cynical about any advertised products (unless of course it is promoted by Barry Scott).
This is also worth a look
How are smartphones affecting teenagers? - BBC NewsComment
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