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IT not worth it anymore?

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    #81
    Yeah but that's not happening. They're being up front with rates for actual jobs from the start.

    (Sorry for the change of topic here.)
    Last edited by IanIan; 21 November 2006, 16:51.

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      #82
      Originally posted by IanIan
      Yeah but that's not happening. They're being up front with rates for actual jobs from the start.

      (Sorry for the change of topic here.)
      You don't know that until you've got the contract.

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        #83
        Originally posted by rge
        What about outsourcing, doesn't that mean that india etc can do programming for much lower rates? What will stop all programming and work that can be outsourced from being outsourced?
        Their rates are low, but so is their quality. I once worked for a US company that had to scrap $16million worth of Indian (and I don't mean Native American) development work, because it didn't work.

        Then they imported two hundred Chinese coders into their Chicago offices to try again.

        Then they went bust..........
        Life is just nature's way of keeping meat fresh

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          #84
          Originally posted by hattra
          Their rates are low, but so is their quality. I once worked for a US company that had to scrap $16million worth of Indian (and I don't mean Native American) development work, because it didn't work.

          Then they imported two hundred Chinese coders into their Chicago offices to try again.

          Then they went bust..........
          Is that like adding insult to injury ?

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            #85
            IT Hah !

            Personally, i work in three main areas of IT:

            - Interim IT Management
            - Project Management
            - Consultancy

            this means i can cherry pick jobs and generally my daily rate is between £300-£600 per day depending on location. You have to flexible though and be confident in your ability to deliver. A strong technical background is important as is exposure to diverse environments, and a willingness to learn and upskill. All of which takes time to achieve (over 12 years in my case). The reality is that now I am comfortable in what i do and sometimes I even enjoy it

            IT is massive, but certainly in the areas I work you almost have to be jack of all trades and master of all. Always get the relevant qualifications to backup you up; in my case Prince 2, ITIL and MCP.

            If you do it right, you could work for six months and have six months off; this presupposes the idea that you might have kids etc - they totally screw you plans up for life !!!

            Not that I'm bitter..////

            Good luck, although if given the choice i'd probably do marine biology or become a park ranger or summing like that
            Cup 'o Tea and a Slice of Cake, my my......

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              #86
              Originally posted by VectraMan
              I think like anything if you're good you can do well, but the days where the average Joe made loads in IT because he knew his way round a phillips screwdriver, are gone.
              Yes, but they will be back again. Let me build a simple model. People enrolled to IT courses less and less -> IT demand goes higher than ever ->outsourcing less available because India and China economies grow -> less resources to choose from -> what happens?

              We'll talk about this in 5-10 years time. Let's save this post for memory.
              I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

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