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    #41
    Originally posted by Lucy
    chafe ?
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chafe

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      #42
      Originally posted by rootsnall
      IT contractors have been talking the demise of IT for 20 years but the number of jobs keep on growing ( with the odd slump ) and if you have got half a clue you should earn a reasonable living at it.
      I for one have been wondering nervously how long it would last, for well over 20 years now

      One source of confusion is that we talk as if there is only one IT, only one level of skill and demand. That's not so. Being a low-grade code monkey is not great nowadays. Having skills that are sought-after and not easily acquired, is as good as ever.

      It was ever so: being a 2-year COBOL programmer was once a pretty good deal, but in those days that was rare and not easy to get to (nobody would train you, you couldn't learn it on your PC because they didn't exist, university education had a different focus, and government training schemes were correctly seen as insufficient).

      I.e. coding was once rare and well-paid, now it isn't. (good coding is still rare but nobody cares). The "IT" that pays is now a higher level.

      The barrier to entry and the good rates go hand in hand.
      Last edited by expat; 20 November 2006, 13:03.

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        #43
        Originally posted by expat
        I for one have been wondering nervously how long it would last, for well over 20 years now

        One source of confusion is that we talk as if there is only one IT, only one level of skill and demand. That's not so. Being a low-grade code monkey is not great nowadays. Having skills that are sought-after and not easily acquired, is as good as ever.

        It was ever so: being a 2-year COBOL programmer was once a pretty good deal, but in those days that was rare and not easy to get to (nobody would train you, you couldn't learn it on your PC because they didn't exist, university education had a different focus, and government training schemes were correctly seen as insufficient).

        The barrier to entry and the good rates go hand in hand.
        I once did an ET in Cobol, waste of fookin time. I just though I'd share that with you.
        The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

        But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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          #44
          Originally posted by Bagpuss
          I once did an ET in Cobol, waste of fookin time. I just though I'd share that with you.
          Yes, I have helped out a friend who did one. I was staggered. He was expected to study a few sheets of notes and one example, then write a simple COBOL program, not even try compiling it, and say he was trained in programming.

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            #45
            Originally posted by expat
            Yes, I have helped out a friend who did one. I was staggered. He was expected to study a few sheets of notes and one example, then write a simple COBOL program, not even try compiling it, and say he was trained in programming.
            The only thing I can remember is being told what a parity bit was, and it's not a bit of an exotic bird.

            The ETs were a right royal fook up, the training companies made a packet (at the taxpayers expense) and the qualification was useless, some City and Guilds rubbish.
            The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

            But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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              #46
              Originally posted by Sockpuppet

              Yeah, cheers puppet, I just didn't think pyrex did that.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Bagpuss
                The only thing I can remember is being told what a parity bit was, and it's not a bit of an exotic bird.
                About as useful as knowing what a sanity clause is!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Lucy
                  Yeah, cheers puppet, I just didn't think pyrex did that.
                  Depnds where you put it.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sockpuppet
                    Depnds where you put it.
                    In the oven.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Sockpuppet
                      If you want no holes barred oney go into economics or recruitment. I have 2 mates who are in it. One earns £80k as a rec consultant in bristol. The other works for CitiBank an ears >£100k/year. They both make good money but earn it doing >12hour days. By contrast I get £60k as a logistician and do 4 hour days. See the maths there...
                      Hi, can i ask what is a logistician? And how can you earn so much for so few hours?

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