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    #11
    Originally posted by Ardesco
    I would disagree. if you want the big money get yourself CORGI registered and do gas work. You can charge up to £80/hour (although i think the average is £50/hour) and people will pay it.

    I have a mate who quit coding to go and do this and he's doing very well for himself, works when he feels like it and brings in much more than he did from coding. I sometimes think about doing it myself, maybe when Plan B is bringing in a lot more money
    Have you seen the route to certification for this: looks like they are trying to fast track the foreigners

    Category One

    Experienced gas-fitting operatives from within or outside of the United Kingdom who are:

    * seeking to renew expired or expiring certificates of gas safety competence i.e. HSC, ACoP, ACS or Gas Services N/SVQ's
    * seeking assessment and certification to extend their range of gas work;
    * foreign nationals seeking to obtain certificates of gas safety competence that will allow them to meet United Kingdom gas work requirements. Operatives in this category need to provide evidence of their gas fitting qualifications and experience and all information needs to be translated into English, where appropriate.

    Category Two

    Candidates have to provide evidence that qualifications are held which are relevant to the area(s) of gas work where they are seeking to acquire certification. These qualifications must show that competence has been achieved in the generic work activities associated with fossil fuelled appliances/equipment and/or pipe work installation, including any of the following work activities, flueing or ventilation or the installation, maintenance or commissioning of such appliances.

    Examples of appropriate qualifications include:

    • Plumbing craft qualification or N/SVQ (oil and/or solid fuel options) – suitable initially for domestic or commercial central, water heating or pipe work installation.

    • Pipe Fitter/Welder craft qualification or N/SVQ – suitable initially for commercial pipe work, pipe work commissioning and meter installation.

    • Heating and Ventilation craft qualification or N/SVQ – suitable initially for commercial pipe work and appliance installation.

    • Refrigeration Engineer/Fitter craft qualification or N/SVQ - suitable initially for commercial appliance and pipe work installation.



    In addition to appropriate qualifications candidates need to provide written evidence confirming that “on the job” gas installation and/or maintenance training has been undertaken and that any experience of gas work gained has been carried out under the direct supervision of a competent operative, employed by a CORGI registered company. Such written evidence will need to be provided from the employer and detail precisely the areas of gas work undertaken.

    Category Three

    These candidates are new entrants into the gas industry and are unable to provide details of relevant qualifications and/or experience. These will be individuals who are classed as entering the industry for the first time, or changing career direction

    Candidates in this category should be advised to seek training and experience that will result in the attainment of a National/Scottish Vocational Qualification (N/SVQ) in Gas Services, Installation and Maintenance at Level 2 or 3, or obtain employment with a CORGI registered business who is willing to provide an auditable extended period of company “in house” gas training programme together with the necessary organisational support prior to undertaking ACS assessment.

    The duration and content of the training programme will be determined by the scope of gas work being undertaken. Evidence in the form of a portfolio following completion of such training must be presented to the assessment centre before a candidate can undertake assessments.

    Alternatively an N/SVQ within the Mechanical Engineering Sector with related on the job gas training and experience in the intended areas of gas work to be carried out will also support a future application.
    How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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      #12
      Its a case of being in the right place at the right time.

      IT can pay well at the minute but I wouldn't advise anyone now to start a career in coding...

      These things never seem to last very long - a relative of mine went into electronic engineering which paid well in the late seventies and eighties but is a bit of a struggle now though.

      As far as I can see, the only professions that paid well 100 years ago and still pay well today are Doctors and Lawyers. So if you want a secured high income for the long term, there is your answer.

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        #13
        Wouldn't bother with the Doctor thing. Human bodies don't change much. But laws and accounts: every year stuff changes ... job for life at high rates.
        Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
        threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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          #14
          great! more competition....

          personally I'm thinking of getting out and taking a business course and moving into management. I find that IT jobs salaries peak out well below what paper pushers peak at. Unless your name is Threaded.


          Just My Opinion of course.
          McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
          Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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            #15
            Originally posted by lilelvis2000
            personally I'm thinking of getting out and taking a business course and moving into management. I find that IT jobs salaries peak out well below what paper pushers peak at.
            Yep, amazing really considering how little they actually seem to do.

            I was fed up with development a year ago, and expecting to end up doing more of a management role, but now I've found I've started to enjoy it a lot more.

            I think like anything if you're good you can do well, but the days where the average Joe made loads in IT because he knew his way round a phillips screwdriver, are gone.
            Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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              #16
              Originally posted by rge
              I am new here and i was hoping from some advice. I have been interested in computers for quite a while now, and have various vocational qualifications. I was about to start an IT degree, but after reading a lot of sites and articles and hearing from different IT pros i'm not sure its an area to get into if you want to earn decent money. There seems to be a lot of problems in IT, and although i like it, i'm wondering if i should look elsewhere for more steady career prospects. I notice that it has been mentioned a few times about becoming a tradesman. Is it a lucrative thing to get into?
              If you want no holes barred oney go into economics or recruitment. I have 2 mates who are in it. One earns £80k as a rec consultant in bristol. The other works for CitiBank an ears >£100k/year. They both make good money but earn it doing >12hour days. By contrast I get £60k as a logistician and do 4 hour days. See the maths there...

              The money is there you just have to find it. Choose something that cannot be outsourced. I.e. they cannot outsource logistics to India as its not a commericial hub like rotterdam so unless the continents move alot I'll be able to find work. Also as more production goes overseas the more work I get.

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                #17
                Don't go doctors....it's a waste of time.


                With practice-based commisioning, the PCT will engage the services of the cheapest provider.

                A man from a surgery I know went to a walk in centre at Liverpool St Station, complaining of severe headaches.

                The doctor in charge said it was stress,

                This doctor is "el cheapo doctor" from Europe with little medical experience.

                The NHS nurse disagreed with the doctor, and told the patient to go to A&E.

                She is under suspension for undermining the doctor.

                The patient went to A&E and they discovered a brain haemorrage.

                Draw your own conclusions
                Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

                C.S. Lewis

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                  #18
                  Reminds me of a story my dad told me...

                  He was in the US on business, and developed a rash on his neck - he went to the nearest hospital, and was told he had skin cancer. He got on the next flight home.

                  His GP asked him if he had changed washing powders recently - of course the hotel were using some mass produced muck for their cleaning service.

                  Within a couple of days he was back in the US, and used a laundromat instead. The rash dissapeared.

                  From one extreme to another....
                  Vieze Oude Man

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                    #19
                    Good question and difficult to answer. The decision was much easier 10 years ago. Maybe you could use Threaded's time machine?

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                      #20
                      IT sucks. It's volatile, very unpredictable and prone to crashes. Hey just like Windows.

                      Gas fitters, electricians and other tradespeople are facing competition from black market Eastern Europeans at the moment.

                      Get a job as a train driver (circa 28-32k) and get on the council. That's the most reliable and stable income at the moment.

                      I'm investigating being a freight train driver for EWS
                      I was TheMonkey

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