As you were, stand down sas, blasterbates, & co - Brexit has been cancelled!

[AtW]

Nope, despite our best effort we were sold to Russia in Yalta. The russian troops were in Poland indeed but Churchil said Russians can take lands wherever they have

Yes, the West sold out Eastern Europe to USSR, which is part of the reason why it's good to see expanded EU - the West owes those Eastern States which took the brunt of Soviet occupation.

[The_Equalizer]

So yeah, betrayed again!

Blimey, it's all coming out now.

[tomtomagain]

the West owes those Eastern States which took the brunt of Soviet occupation.

What does Russia owe them?

[squarepeg]

Poland was occupied by USSR at the time, such decisions were made in Moscow

No, they were made by the three world powers, USSR, Britain, and the USA. Churchill knew that Yalta was a bad deal, but also knew he could not ask the British population to die to free Poland from communist rule. Britain was exhausted and ruined after the war, so it was both economically and financially impossible. Morally, it was hard to defend and it's been a very touchy subject in Poland. The Polish Resettlement Act 1947 was a way of making up for that, but it was also a very pragmatic solution to the problem of not having enough hands to rebuild the country.

Brexit is happening, because Britain once again sees that something is too expensive and too hard. This time it's something more peaceful than the carnage of WWII, but the principle is the same. The politicians think it's too expensive to try to change the EU from inside, so Britain cannot be bothered, bails out, and only wants to trade Burberry scarves for blueberries. Fine, but let's not pretend that Britain gives a **** about anything but itself.

[diseasex]

What does Russia owe them?

50 years!

[The_Equalizer]

No, they were made by the three world powers, USSR, Britain, and the USA. Churchill knew that Yalta was a bad deal, but also knew he could not ask the British population to die to free Poland from communist rule. Britain was exhausted and ruined after the war, so it was both economically and financially impossible. Morally, it was hard to defend and it's been a very touchy subject in Poland. The Polish Resettlement Act 1947 was a way of making up for that, but it was also a very pragmatic solution to the problem of not having enough hands to rebuild the country.

Brexit is happening, because Britain once again sees that something is too expensive and too hard. This time it's something more peaceful than the carnage of WWII, but the principle is the same. The politicians think it's too expensive to try to change the EU from inside, so Britain cannot be bothered, bails out, and only wants to trade Burberry scarves for blueberries. Fine, but let's not pretend that Britain gives a **** about anything but itself.

Blimey, it's all coming out now.

[The_Equalizer]

50 years!

Just out of curiosity, how many of those 50 years were your years?

[northernladyuk]

Blimey, it's all coming out now.

Well, let's not pretend the English electorate GAS about NI or Gibraltar.

[diseasex]

Just out of curiosity, how many of those 50 years were your years?

exactly 9. We had nothing. Absolute poverty, period of no electricity.Hyper inflation, constant threat of russia invading.
Listen i don't want to show myself as victim here. Things ended very well for me in the end. Just My mother and father didn't have that great life.

[tomtomagain]

Fine, but let's not pretend that Britain gives a **** about anything but itself.

And France cares about others? Germany? Of course not.

As they say in diplomatic circles: Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.