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Brexit DOOM™: Parts of UK that voted for Brexit may be hardest hit

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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Brexit means leaving the EU. Did you read the wording of the referendum? The rest of it is up for grabs:



    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/a546...d-f867ba394b09
    Well that sounds like somebody who gives up smoking, but still uses e-cigs manufactured in Antwerp.
    http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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      Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
      Brexit means leaving the EU, customs union, single market and etc.
      You don't have to be in the EU to be in the EU Customs Union. Just ask Turkey.

      Similarly, not all EU territories are in the Customs Union. Just ask Gibraltar.

      That the UK already complies with EU regulations and the Great Repeal Bill will enshrine EU regulations into UK law directly, then there is no reason why we need to be outside the Customs Union.

      The Customs Union does not even need to include everything, but what it does mean is delegating control of international trade agreements to the EU. The transitional deal could well be that we are free to set up our own international trade deals but if we do then any items within that trade deal become removed from our customs agreement with the EU. This allows politicians to spin that we are free from the EU shackles to create our own trade deals whilst in practice it would be stupid to do so.
      Taking a break from contracting

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        Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
        Well that sounds like somebody who gives up smoking, but still uses e-cigs manufactured in Antwerp.
        It does to a cretin who can only grasp at understanding complex topics by resorting to simplistic analogies.

        To the rest of us, no it doesn't.

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          The problem with the referendum is that we vote for a departure but not a destination.

          Camoron should have set out its Brexit stall. If the government had created a referendum manifesto to leave the Customs Union, leave the single market, completely detach itself from the EU and all of its bodies and revert to WTO rules, then that would be different. Instead they took the "nah, they'll never vote to leave" line and instead resorted to throwaway comments in TV interviews and make idle threats which were even more unrealistic than 'That Bus' and allowing it to become about immigrants.

          It was up to Vote Leave to get people to Vote Leave, but they could never create a manifesto for government - they weren't in government. It was up to the government to officially set that out what Brexit would actually mean. That would have turned many moderate leavers into reluctant remainers instead.
          Taking a break from contracting

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            Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
            Funny, isn't it. In the first speech on Brexit May said she wanted to guarantee EU works rights in the UK, however, it was the EU that were refusing to do likewise for workers like ScooterScot.
            Do you have proof of that?
            Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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              Brexit DOOM™: Parts of UK that voted for Brexit may be hardest hit

              Originally posted by chopper View Post
              The problem with the referendum is that we vote for a departure but not a destination.

              Camoron should have set out its Brexit stall. If the government had created a referendum manifesto to leave the Customs Union, leave the single market, completely detach itself from the EU and all of its bodies and revert to WTO rules, then that would be different. Instead they took the "nah, they'll never vote to leave" line and instead resorted to throwaway comments in TV interviews and make idle threats which were even more unrealistic than 'That Bus' and allowing it to become about immigrants.

              It was up to Vote Leave to get people to Vote Leave, but they could never create a manifesto for government - they weren't in government. It was up to the government to officially set that out what Brexit would actually mean. That would have turned many moderate leavers into reluctant remainers instead.


              Yeah, The PM needed to have been more explicit about leaving the single market...


              https://youtu.be/zNnh-KhiLm0
              Last edited by PurpleGorilla; 28 March 2017, 10:48.
              http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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                Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
                Yeah, The PM needed to have been more explicitly about leaving the single market...
                Fair point. And here too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dghdvVbtowM

                In which case, yes we voted to leave the single market. Comprehensive Free Trade Agreement with the Single Market, here we come.
                Taking a break from contracting

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                  Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
                  Yeah, The PM needed to have been more explicit about leaving the single market...


                  https://youtu.be/zNnh-KhiLm0
                  Regrettable that nobody corrected Hannan when he said:

                  Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market

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                    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
                    Regrettable that nobody corrected Hannan when he said:
                    ....and the comments from Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson constantly pointing to Norway, Switzerland and Iceland, were somewhat misleading, when in fact the Ukraine, Belarus and Serbia were what they had in mind.
                    I'm alright Jack

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                      Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
                      It does to a cretin who can only grasp at understanding complex topics by resorting to simplistic analogies.
                      Thanks for giving us the view from the cretin perspective. Takes some of the workload from sas.

                      “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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