Oh Goody they put their most reasonable negotiator on it

[sasguru]

Indeed

Post Brexit Prefab Britain

They want a 1950's Britain and a 1950's Britain is exactly what they're going to get.

To be fair the Germans do prefab quite well:

https://www.huf-haus.com/en/england/...how-house.html

But that's definitely not what you'll get in Brexit Britain

[AtW]

Well the current Prime Minister could have done that but she didn't, instead she cut back the immigration service. Now she's leading Britain into the wilderness, be afraid, very afraid

She was very successful at classifying students as migrants and then making it hard to get visas, that "reduced" level of immigration

[sasguru]

She was very successful at classifying students as migrants and then making it hard to get visas, that "reduced" level of immigration

FFS never understood why students should be part of the immigration numbers - in fact they're the largest part AFAIK.
Some will stay post-graduation, count them then (and most will be higher rate teaxpayers, a net gain to the country) - the majority will leave.

[AtW]

FFS never understood why students should be part of the immigration numbers - in fact they're the largest part AFAIK.

It's easy for Home Office to cut those visas, and who cares if Unis get shafted in the process, it's not like Tory Scum want educated population

[vetran]

She was very successful at classifying students as migrants and then making it hard to get visas, that "reduced" level of immigration

actually it was a well known route for illegal migration. Even the BBC was upset by it. Did you not wonder why so many toilet size English Language colleges with 2000 students existed?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/...00-immigration

Universities UK, which represents vice-chancellors, agreed with the watchdog's recommendation that the UKBA should work more closely with sponsors. Nicola Dandridge, the group's chief executive, said: "Higher education is a success story for the UK but there is no shortage of global competition. We must ensure that legitimate concerns about immigration do not end up causing irreversible damage to a profoundly successful British export."

How 93,000 non-EU students a year stay on in the UK | Daily Mail Online

Since 2010, the Government has closed more than 900 bogus colleges which were accused of ‘selling a back door’ to the UK.

Student visa system 'abused' to gain illegal entry to UK - Telegraph

The Home Secretary has launched a clamp down on alleged abuses of student visas after an investigation found the system was providing a “free for all” for illegal entry to the UK.
Theresa May suspended English language tests set by a major exam board in the UK and temporarily withdrew accreditation from a series of colleges and immigration advisers amid evidence of a thriving market in fraudulent visas.
The move came after an undercover investigation by BBC One’s Panorama revealed a network of agents was helping overseas students pass English language exams, obtain false documents and doctor their academic records.
In one case, a researcher paid an immigration consultancy in west London £500 for a “guaranteed pass” in an official English test – staged as part of a requirement to prove applicants have the necessary language skills to gain a visa.

[sasguru]

actually it was a well known route for illegal migration. Even the BBC was upset by it. Did you not wonder why so many toilet size English Language colleges with 2000 students there were?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/...00-immigration



How 93,000 non-EU students a year stay on in the UK | Daily Mail Online



Student visa system 'abused' to gain illegal entry to UK - Telegraph

Yeah but the solution is the relatively simple one of closing down bogus colleges and/or only issuing student visas for respected insititions (both quite easy to implement) , not counting students as immigrants.

Yet again the ineptness of the country shows itself, nothing to do with the EU, this particular stupidity

[vetran]

Yeah but the solution is the relatively simple one of closing down bogus colleges and/or only issuing student visas for respected insititions (both quite easy to implement) , not counting students as immigrants.

Yet again the ineptness of the country shows itself, nothing to do with the EU, this particular stupidity

well if you notice the middle story 93,000 students stayed on. Seems sensible to manage them as immigrants.

do keep up.

[sasguru]

FFS never understood why students should be part of the immigration numbers - in fact they're the largest part AFAIK.
Some will stay post-graduation, count them then (and most will be higher rate teaxpayers, a net gain to the country) - the majority will leave.

well if you notice the middle story 93,000 students stayed on. Seems sensible to manage them as immigrants.

do keep up.

Do keep up at the back.

[squarepeg]

Indeed why are we beggars? is it us with our bowl out asking for dollar for leaving the club?



Wow - maybe black people will potentially rob more based on stats from prison so best not give them a job then.

You cannot make a decision based on maybe something in the future could happen especially when it is clearly discriminatory.

Yes, you can. I am being told that my stay here cannot be guaranteed unless certain conditions are met. That may or may not happen and I cannot plan my future here, because I don't know if I will be able to get a mortgage, keep the property I have here, etc. Why should Brits be treated any way different by other EU countries?

Think about Brexit as a divorce. Do you continue to have sex when you tell your wife you want to divorce her? Nope. You're still married and legally you are treated as a couple, but you are not doing a lot of things together anymore.

I'm sure existing deals will be honoured, but any future deals and planning will for now not involve British partners, because of the uncertainty of their future legal status.

[vetran]

Do keep up at the back.

as the majority seem to stay it makes more sense to count them.

They are immigrants they should go in the figures. So long as we police them well people will believe they are leaving. but for decades they came as students, significant numbers worked illegally and over stayed.