Sadiq Khan likens Scottish Nationalism to racism

[SueEllen]

Scotland - the only country to discover oil and get poorer as a result.

Dear Scotland, vote yes for goodness sake.

Treason - Off with his head.

[minestrone]

When progressive socialists fall out.

[minestrone]

Scotland - the only country to discover oil and get poorer as a result.

Dear Scotland, vote yes for goodness sake.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7038421.html

Oil won't save any socialist, high spending nation from poverty.

[xoggoth]

Oil won't save any socialist, high spending nation from poverty

Quite. While there are big advantages in avoiding a very unequal society it beats me how intelligent people believe in communism/real socialism, it has never worked and never could. If you go too far in restricting personal wealth the most able will either leave, stop wasting their time trying or further their ambitions within corrupt government.

Talk to communists about the USSR etc. and they will always tell you it wasn't real communism. How many times must idealistic dreams fail apart before some people accept the realities?

[LondonManc]

Quite. While there are big advantages in avoiding a very unequal society it beats me how intelligent people believe in communism/real socialism, it has never worked and never could. If you go too far in restricting personal wealth the most able will either leave, stop wasting their time trying or further their ambitions within corrupt government.

Talk to communists about the USSR etc. and they will always tell you it wasn't real communism. How many times must idealistic dreams fail apart before some people accept the realities?

Send everyone who wants to go to university.
Oh wait, we've got insufficient graduates of adequate calibre. Fancy that.

[scooterscot]

Quite. While there are big advantages in avoiding a very unequal society it beats me how intelligent people believe in communism/real socialism, it has never worked and never could. If you go too far in restricting personal wealth the most able will either leave, stop wasting their time trying or further their ambitions within corrupt government.

Talk to communists about the USSR etc. and they will always tell you it wasn't real communism. How many times must idealistic dreams fail apart before some people accept the realities?

Couldn't agree more.

But I'm vehemently against the idea that both members of the household should be working long hours to support a mortgage payment up to and beyond 50% of income.

The point is the two sides are further apart than they've ever been. That's dangerous.