Remember The Office where that TA rat-faced bloke gets to become "Team Leader" for no extra pay.
That's you that is.
That's you that is.
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Defo some truth in that, however, I found this no more dificult than the 'get on with people' attitude I bring to a contract. Most people I have worked with would estimate that I probably like them as colleagues and I am personable and approachable. Mostly this has been the case but there have been plenty of times I have built up serious dislike of people while smiling and taking the money. One chap I hated invited me to his wedding... Point is, it's just playing the game, everyone has to do it to a certain extent unless you are super guru (trust me not many if any on here are one). We are not talking brown nosing, simply establishing a reputation as a safe pair of hands, not moaning, not going sick, always looking for progress in a project - its easy if you have any personality at all (anyone who had a zx spectrum need not apply)Originally posted by FranckoComment
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I wouldn't say is exactly the same as obtaining new contracts. Not to say it's easier or more difficult but I think it just requires different skills. I would say that as a manager you have to focus on building up your power and influence, while as a contractor you have concentrate on your specific area and customer needs. Surely you might have to deal with bastards at any level, that doesn't necessarily apply to management. But I still think you need to have a different approach to succeed in the two fields. And if you are a good contractor (no need to be a genius) you can stay on top with more ease, while being a good manager does not necessarily keep you on top at all.Originally posted by lukemgI've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.Comment
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In response to the people who haven't written a line of code in X years...
I code for fun. Couldn't imagine life without it.Serving religion with the contempt it deserves...Comment
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Thats great Monkey, if only you could find someone to pay you to do it...Comment
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I shouldn't let lack of pay stop you, just look at AtW...Originally posted by lukemg
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Look at it as a learning opportunity.
If you are a permie it means you can go for all those exciting management training courses. Leadership with emotional intelligence, 360 reviews with pleasure, hiring & firing with confidence, internal examinations of senior staffers etc.
Depends on the offer, if its not much extra work and you get to keep your tech skills its another useful skill.
Remember companies hire Burger restaurant mangers to manage staff, yet won't touch a 'smart tech' rev 1 expert to work on rev 1.1.Comment
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Who needs to code when there are lots of monkeys out there who actually enjoy itOriginally posted by TheMonkey
far better to live off & take credit for their efforts 
How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't thinkComment
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What a pointless thread this is. Just proves the point with techies - usually have all the people skills of a dead slug. This is life we're talking about - to achieve something you have to deal with the non-logical bi-pedal species which is humanity. Or you can hide away in your techie stuff till they outsource it to Johnnie Kumar in Mumbai. Your choice.
Next ....Hard Brexit now!
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What a great strategic idea! Let's become a nation of managers! It doesn't matter if we lose all the expertise. We can make lots of business deals during our evening drinks and our golf sessions. All without the need of any expertise, as that is only techies stuff, not worth to keep in the house. Let's keep doing that and outsource more and more until some properly managed company in India will be able to buy us out and force us to return to an agricultural economy.*Originally posted by sasguru
* Unfortunately, you are not the only idiot to think like this.
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