The thing that grates is the convoluted moral stance being taken by the likes of Bush and Blair. You can't have it both ways. You cannot appease tyrants when it suits, sell them arms, and turn a blind eye (or frankly not give a sh1t) when they slaughter their own people, and then when it's politically opportune to do so (or it make a convenient scapegoat for your own fook ups) pretend to be some sort of moral authority dishing out the justice. Blair and Bush don't give a sh1t how many Iraqis have died, or continue to die. Maybe Bush and Blair are going for Saddams record, then retrospectively in 20 years time we can hang them for their war crimes?
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The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.
But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.” -
If it wasn't for the fact they are all killing each other, I'd have a bit more time for that argument.Originally posted by BagpussHis heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Well said Mordac. People seem to have very short memories. Is it that long ago that the communists lost control of Yugoslavia and the country descended into civil war that lasted years and killed hundreds of thousands?
People dont blame Gorbachov for what happened despite him being the catalyst by removing his support from the Yugoslav regime.
The fact is that however saddam's regime ended you would have had this sort of ongoing sectarian conflict. Unless of course you'd have happily gone along with appeasing another evil dictator to oppress the people and force them to live side by side.Comment
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Ah now that is where you are wrong.Originally posted by Mordac
In Saddam's Country his word was law so he never broke the law. The fact that we overthrew him and installed a puppet regime means that the court that tried him is not a legal court it's a bunch of interlopers fitting Saddam up for the crime so that they can hang him and tell the world how morally wonderful are now they have killed thier former leader.
Could you imagine a bunch of fuzzy wuzzies comeing over here and arresting, trying and finding everybody here guilty of drinking alchohol ?? Same sort of principle.
From a strictly legal point of view Saddam shouldnt have been tried in the first place, he probably has got what was coming to him but then ask yourself this. Would he have been able to hold the country together if it wasn't for his reputation, I mean look at the place now....Comment
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Free Saddam!!! He is a freedom fighter.
HTHComment
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Originally posted by Ardesco
Are you on drugs?His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by mmc71
So to pharaphraze they should have left him in powerThe court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.
But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”Comment
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They should have
....Put a bullet in his head when they found him.
It was about the only time he could have been "killed in a raid" or "been dead when they found him". They should have taken the opportunity to plug hom then and there
Instead they tried to make political capital of him, with this joke trial.
Dont get me worng he deserves a lot worse than death, but we dont deserve the nauseating, "victory for democracy" speeches which are no doubt already being drawn up for when he is hanging high with piddle dripping off his feet.There are no evil thoughts except one: the refusal to thinkComment
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There wouldn't have been more death on the streets than there is now, our boys wouldn't be fighting and dying for no reason and the UN wouldn't have been made to look completely impotent when the US said pass a resolutions or we'll ignore you. We wouldn't have wasted millions of pounds of tax payers money on a war that was pointless and nothing to do with us and we wouldn't have broken international law by invading a country for no reason other than George wanted us to.Originally posted by Bagpuss
All in all yes I belive we should have left him in power....Comment
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Where do you draw the line with mass-murdering dictators then? Hitler? Milosevic? Would you have ignored them too?Originally posted by ArdescoHis heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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